Tyres with grip
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I appreciate if specific brands cannot be recommended on here. What should I look for in a tyre when seeking shed loads of grip?
Since we rempped our 330d the rear wheels often skit and we see the traction light often.
Thanks
Since we rempped our 330d the rear wheels often skit and we see the traction light often.
Thanks
Edited by Super_G on Saturday 3rd February 06:10
Edited by Super_G on Saturday 3rd February 06:27
The stock answers to grip above others are:
Continental sport contact 5 or 6
Goodyear F1 Assymetric 2 or 3
Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Dunlop RT sport max 2
Go to tyrereviews.com for more info on any, there is a whole section under the tab "all tests" wher you can see all professional test review scores done under back-to-back test conditions from all the major players when you drill down into the specific tyres.
Also you can scan through all tests from the main page to check out each individual test.
Continental sport contact 5 or 6
Goodyear F1 Assymetric 2 or 3
Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Dunlop RT sport max 2
Go to tyrereviews.com for more info on any, there is a whole section under the tab "all tests" wher you can see all professional test review scores done under back-to-back test conditions from all the major players when you drill down into the specific tyres.
Also you can scan through all tests from the main page to check out each individual test.
SteA said:
If they do your wheel size, Michelin Pilot Sport 4S (NOT MPS4, the non S version is not the same!), I’m sure there is voodoo involved in how well they work 
bizzarrely they also last very well, including track work
I second the 4S , have then on my M3. bizzarrely they also last very well, including track work But the Sport 4 is still great , and probably more widely available.
Outside of Michelin’s , I’ve been impressed with the Pirelli PZeros I’ve got on my X1.
LocoBlade said:
Or Michelin Pilot Supersports if you can still get them in the size you need. None of the above will have very good grip in cold damp winter conditions though so are you sure it's the remap and not just the time of year thats the main cause?
Goodyear Eagle F1s grip well in cold damp winter conditions. (Not so well in snow and ice).PS4 give massive traction compared to PSS in the wet or dry but it isn't really a performance tyre.
I needed two rear PSS last year for my E39 M5 but there were NLA at the time so has to slump with PS4 no (S available either).The first 30 ft of driving with them on I knew instantly the car was ruined dynamically,soft vague horrible feel at the back end;I had used the car for 3 years with PSS and was hard wired to their preference for sideways behaviour
and the precision that went with it.
By comparison PS4 just go in a straight line,hardly breaks traction even in 1st in the dry and the dsc light rarely flashes and the on tap oversteer....gone in the dry.
Wet or slippery roads you can exploit them but they still feel soft and that initial breakaway feel is vague but the outright grip is uncanny.If you like drag racing get PS4!
I needed two rear PSS last year for my E39 M5 but there were NLA at the time so has to slump with PS4 no (S available either).The first 30 ft of driving with them on I knew instantly the car was ruined dynamically,soft vague horrible feel at the back end;I had used the car for 3 years with PSS and was hard wired to their preference for sideways behaviour
and the precision that went with it.By comparison PS4 just go in a straight line,hardly breaks traction even in 1st in the dry and the dsc light rarely flashes and the on tap oversteer....gone in the dry.
Wet or slippery roads you can exploit them but they still feel soft and that initial breakaway feel is vague but the outright grip is uncanny.If you like drag racing get PS4!
trickywoo said:
I’ve just put a pair of rear F1s on replacing 3mm PS3 and the extra grip in the cold and wet is amazing. I wasn’t expecting much if any improvement but the goodyears are really good - cheap from tyreleader too.
I have new F1 Assymetricals on our S3 and they are a very good tyre, as much as most people would want with a do it all road tyre; however, the PS4S which we have on the Cupra are in another league, especially as a high performance road and track tyre. 
Super_G said:
I appreciate if specific brands cannot be recommended on here. What should I look for in a tyre when seeking shed loads of grip?
Since we rempped our 330d the rear wheels often skit and we see the traction light often.
Thanks
If you want "shed loads of grip" at the moment, you need to be looking at winter tyres designed to work at the current low temperatures.Since we rempped our 330d the rear wheels often skit and we see the traction light often.
Thanks
Edited by Super_G on Saturday 3rd February 06:10
Edited by Super_G on Saturday 3rd February 06:27
All of the tyres being mentioned are highly rated (each with their own set of fans who will declare them to be "The best tyre available!"), but they are all currently being compromised to one degree or another by the cold temperatures.
The problem with tyres is, one driver's "great tyre!", is another driver's "I found them mediocre/crap" tyre, and unfortunately, the only way you can find the tyre you like best is by buying them and trying them - Which is not cheap (and there's always the possibility that you replace all four tyres at great expense, and find you still have the same issues due to the current temperatures).
Out of curiosity, what tyre's are on the car at the moment?
Agree with the last post. A remapped 330D in the current weather we've got here (4 deg. and damp roads) would be a problem for a lot of 'summer' tyres and particularly runflats.
I've got Nokian WR3s on my 330i currently and they're performing very well in terms of grip and traction. Once the temperature starts to get into double figures regularly I'll be back on the summer tyres, although for that car it won;t be anything particularly sporty, just a set of Nokian zLines, which are good all-rounders and not expensive.
The remapped 335i is almost ready for a replacement set and that's having PS4 or PS4S. Haven't quite decided yet.
What's probably a bigger cause of traction issues in this weather is the lack of a LSD, but that's more difficult and costly to fix.
I've got Nokian WR3s on my 330i currently and they're performing very well in terms of grip and traction. Once the temperature starts to get into double figures regularly I'll be back on the summer tyres, although for that car it won;t be anything particularly sporty, just a set of Nokian zLines, which are good all-rounders and not expensive.
The remapped 335i is almost ready for a replacement set and that's having PS4 or PS4S. Haven't quite decided yet.
What's probably a bigger cause of traction issues in this weather is the lack of a LSD, but that's more difficult and costly to fix.
FurtiveFreddy said:
Agree with the last post. A remapped 330D in the current weather we've got here (4 deg. and damp roads) would be a problem for a lot of 'summer' tyres and particularly runflats.
I've got Nokian WR3s on my 330i currently and they're performing very well in terms of grip and traction. Once the temperature starts to get into double figures regularly I'll be back on the summer tyres, although for that car it won;t be anything particularly sporty, just a set of Nokian zLines, which are good all-rounders and not expensive.
The remapped 335i is almost ready for a replacement set and that's having PS4 or PS4S. Haven't quite decided yet.
What's probably a bigger cause of traction issues in this weather is the lack of a LSD, but that's more difficult and costly to fix.
Agreed, people need to think about their expectations based on the weather! My 7 series on summer rubber will give nary a chirp from the tyres on a full-throttle launch on sunny July days. The same car will spin its winter rubber at top of 3rd into 4th (so 110mph), on a wet 4 degree Autobahn, but it’ll get to the top of 3rd about 5 seconds quicker on that winter rubber than it will on the summer rubber, which would happily spin up ‘forever’ in the wet.I've got Nokian WR3s on my 330i currently and they're performing very well in terms of grip and traction. Once the temperature starts to get into double figures regularly I'll be back on the summer tyres, although for that car it won;t be anything particularly sporty, just a set of Nokian zLines, which are good all-rounders and not expensive.
The remapped 335i is almost ready for a replacement set and that's having PS4 or PS4S. Haven't quite decided yet.
What's probably a bigger cause of traction issues in this weather is the lack of a LSD, but that's more difficult and costly to fix.
An LSD certainly helps, but even with 285 section pilot alpin 4 tyres, the M6 is traction limited in this current weather from 4k rpm, almost irrespective of gear (admittedly have not tried this in 7th - but there’s a legal reason why not
)OP, By all means buy the best tyres you can afford, but 400ft/lb of torque will defeat most any tyre in the current weather / temperatures.
I would guess a remapped 330d would give a spluge of torque well over 400ft/lb for a little while at least, it's winter, the roads are greasy, cold and wet it really shouldn't come as a surprise that any tyre will fail to grip in those conditions if you used the throttle like a switch.
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