Modern ///M running costs.
Discussion
Hi all,
I’ve been too long out of the ///M saddle and need a new fix.
Looking to hear from owners with experience of either a current M4 or M2, or the earlier V8 M3, especially with respect to fuel economy.
Daily running of my old E46 M3 would be about 28mpg (less when playing, obviously), which is comparable to what my current E70 X5 drinks.
I’m imagining that the V8 would use more, however would hope that the M4 or M2 could do better, maybe?!?!
I’ve been too long out of the ///M saddle and need a new fix.
Looking to hear from owners with experience of either a current M4 or M2, or the earlier V8 M3, especially with respect to fuel economy.
Daily running of my old E46 M3 would be about 28mpg (less when playing, obviously), which is comparable to what my current E70 X5 drinks.
I’m imagining that the V8 would use more, however would hope that the M4 or M2 could do better, maybe?!?!
Brainpox said:
M2 can get 33mpg on a long gentle journey. Keep it in Comfort though else it'll feel like it just wants to get up and go all the time. It's pretty crap in town, but then what car isn't...
Thanks for that. Must admit that the M2 is my favourite option to look to be able to aim for. If I were in a position to buy an M it would be the M2.
I've driven an M4 for quite some time and I can say it's a lovely machine! But boy, it feels massive to move it around, yet not as spacious on the inside.
That and my friend has been almost crying over the depreciation! His is a 2014 manual M4 which he bought in late 2016. IIRC he thinks he has lost £4-5k in that time.
I've driven an M4 for quite some time and I can say it's a lovely machine! But boy, it feels massive to move it around, yet not as spacious on the inside.
That and my friend has been almost crying over the depreciation! His is a 2014 manual M4 which he bought in late 2016. IIRC he thinks he has lost £4-5k in that time.
SebringMan said:
If I were in a position to buy an M it would be the M2.
I've driven an M4 for quite some time and I can say it's a lovely machine! But boy, it feels massive to move it around, yet not as spacious on the inside.
That and my friend has been almost crying over the depreciation! His is a 2014 manual M4 which he bought in late 2016. IIRC he thinks he has lost £4-5k in that time.
£4-5k in 12-18 months is nothing for an M carI've driven an M4 for quite some time and I can say it's a lovely machine! But boy, it feels massive to move it around, yet not as spacious on the inside.
That and my friend has been almost crying over the depreciation! His is a 2014 manual M4 which he bought in late 2016. IIRC he thinks he has lost £4-5k in that time.
bmwmike said:
4-5k over 18 months is about par for any new car. It's probably doing well.
And does anyone really care about <5mpg difference in the scheme of things? Amusing how practically every thread eventually mentions MPG yet the biggest running costs are glazed over.
The MPG is a good point! If you are doing a fair few miles it will put on £700 or more depending on what car you are used to annually. I'm comparing mine E46 to my diesel W124 and that's before looking at parts etc. But for those wanting to keep the miles down on their cars? I doubt it makes alot of difference at all!And does anyone really care about <5mpg difference in the scheme of things? Amusing how practically every thread eventually mentions MPG yet the biggest running costs are glazed over.
SebringMan said:
bmwmike said:
4-5k over 18 months is about par for any new car. It's probably doing well.
And does anyone really care about <5mpg difference in the scheme of things? Amusing how practically every thread eventually mentions MPG yet the biggest running costs are glazed over.
The MPG is a good point! If you are doing a fair few miles it will put on £700 or more depending on what car you are used to annually. I'm comparing mine E46 to my diesel W124 and that's before looking at parts etc. But for those wanting to keep the miles down on their cars? I doubt it makes alot of difference at all!And does anyone really care about <5mpg difference in the scheme of things? Amusing how practically every thread eventually mentions MPG yet the biggest running costs are glazed over.
Edit just realised you said annually. Is less than 60 quid per month difference.
Many crumbs make a cake 
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Factor in the tyres, extra insurance costs, and for a car outside of warranty, potentially large parts spend the MPG can put people off, even with fuel making part of the cost.
For low mileage users, I agree, it's not alot they'd spend at all.
I'll admit, it's put me off an E90 amongst their other costs and issues.
.Factor in the tyres, extra insurance costs, and for a car outside of warranty, potentially large parts spend the MPG can put people off, even with fuel making part of the cost.
For low mileage users, I agree, it's not alot they'd spend at all.
I'll admit, it's put me off an E90 amongst their other costs and issues.
SebringMan said:
I did think that myself, and it's a fair point, whether it's a new or old M-car which can raise the question of if an older M-Car is cheaper to run...
I was under the impression that an M2 lost alot less!
I've probably lost £8k since getting mine (used, pre-LCI) in July 17.I was under the impression that an M2 lost alot less!
SebringMan said:
That is surprising! How many miles have you covered? In my mate's scenario the car barely ever moves. It's barely done 2,000 miles since then.
Just over 6000. I picked the worst time to buy - mid-summer, just before the LCI model was due to come out. But the opportunity was there and I had to take it. Don't regret it one bit.In fairness the one I have is pretty well optioned (not that there are many options on the M2) with a few M-Perf parts (kidney grille, side vents, alcantara steering wheel) so I may not be comparing apples to apples.
mat205125 said:
Looking to hear from owners with experience of either a current M4 or M2, or the earlier V8 M3, especially with respect to fuel economy.
Not sure fuel economy is something I’d factor in, unless you’re doing 30k+ miles per year.For reference, I’ve done just under 5k miles in my M4 from new (it’s now 12 months old). I have no clue how many mpg it’s doing but I did once see the dash show 30mpg when I was on a 500 mile round trip on quiet motorways.
BUT... I do know it’s depeciated by £12k over the past year, even factoring in the very good discount I got.
So each one of those 400 miles per month has cost £2.50 in depreciation, whilst the fuel has probably cost 25p.
A set of OEM steel brakes for an M4 is around £2k at dealer prices.
I haven’t needed tyres yet, but an OEM pair of rears is £600 fitted via Blackcircles.
Not sure about other consumables.
SebringMan said:
Brainpox said:
I've probably lost £8k since getting mine (used, pre-LCI) in July 17.
That is surprising! How many miles have you covered? In my mate's scenario the car barely ever moves. It's barely done 2,000 miles since then.Now the network is awash with new and used ones they depreciate like any other M, so unless you got in early and then got out before the over-supply, there was no escaping the depreciation.
PorkInsider said:
mat205125 said:
Looking to hear from owners with experience of either a current M4 or M2, or the earlier V8 M3, especially with respect to fuel economy.
Not sure fuel economy is something I’d factor in, unless you’re doing 30k+ miles per year.For reference, I’ve done just under 5k miles in my M4 from new (it’s now 12 months old). I have no clue how many mpg it’s doing but I did once see the dash show 30mpg when I was on a 500 mile round trip on quiet motorways.
BUT... I do know it’s depeciated by £12k over the past year, even factoring in the very good discount I got.
So each one of those 400 miles per month has cost £2.50 in depreciation, whilst the fuel has probably cost 25p.
A set of OEM steel brakes for an M4 is around £2k at dealer prices.
I haven’t needed tyres yet, but an OEM pair of rears is £600 fitted via Blackcircles.
Not sure about other consumables.
Get the point regarding depreciation, however that'll be the case no matter what I choose ...... a £30k used M4 won't depreciate significantly differently to any other £30k newish car from any other brand (petrol, diesel, whatever), and therefore is almost considered a constant.
Not worried about tyres either, as my current X5 costs a grand to re-boot.
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Lots of conundrums to contemplate and consider, and one possible option could be to think about another E46 M3. They're still wonderful cars, still quick, really reliable when properly maintained, and pretty straight forward to self-maintain. I know them inside out from having my previous one, and with help from a mate, even did the chassis/subframe repair and reinforcement. I could choose another one of them, never lose a penny, and keep forever.
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