F31 Tyres Again!!
Discussion
mattyn1 said:
So - apologies for what must seem like a re-re-repost but.....
Tyres on my F31 335XD have about 1000 miles left - what tyres do you recommend as replacements?
Michelin my faves for years. Pilot Sport 4 or if they do them for the 335d Pilot Sport 4S , the performance replacement for the Pilot Super Sport. Tyres on my F31 335XD have about 1000 miles left - what tyres do you recommend as replacements?
Both have plenty of dry/wet/cold grip and wear well. Plus more feedback.
4S I have on M3
Pilot Sport 4 I had on 335i and they were superior to Pilot Super Sport.
Smuler said:
Michelin my faves for years. Pilot Sport 4 or if they do them for the 335d Pilot Sport 4S , the performance replacement for the Pilot Super Sport.
Both have plenty of dry/wet/cold grip and wear well. Plus more feedback.
4S I have on M3
Pilot Sport 4 I had on 335i and they were superior to Pilot Super Sport.
Awesome thanks.Both have plenty of dry/wet/cold grip and wear well. Plus more feedback.
4S I have on M3
Pilot Sport 4 I had on 335i and they were superior to Pilot Super Sport.
Monty Python said:
Run-flats or normal tyres?
I don’t really mind. I have Bridgestone RFs on now, but all four need doing!Pilot Sport 4s are superb, but IMHO there is a question mark over how long they last. They haven't lasted as the long as the Bridgestones on a friend's Seat Ibiza, but it's said cold weather can wear down summer tyres faster and this has been a colder winter than most!
That said, my E46 M3's done 12k on the rear PS4s with tread still left including 120 miles around the Nurburgring.
Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 3s are worth a shout; they are very good and IMHO not that different to the PS4.
The PS4S is an awesome tyre. When my rears go it'll probably be PS4S put on so as to match the fronts. In my defence my choice for the rears at the time of purchase was the then very freshly released PS4 or the PSS. I was one of the first 5 people in the Midlands to buy a set of PS4S when they came out (around March 2017).
That said, my E46 M3's done 12k on the rear PS4s with tread still left including 120 miles around the Nurburgring.
Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 3s are worth a shout; they are very good and IMHO not that different to the PS4.
The PS4S is an awesome tyre. When my rears go it'll probably be PS4S put on so as to match the fronts. In my defence my choice for the rears at the time of purchase was the then very freshly released PS4 or the PSS. I was one of the first 5 people in the Midlands to buy a set of PS4S when they came out (around March 2017).
rayyan171 said:
Wait a second.
Remember to have star marked on the wheels. Many reported cases of transfer boxes failing because of the wrong type of tyres put on. Also remember that non star marked means no warranty.
Excuse my ignorance but I don't understand........ you saying I should stick to BS for warranty?Remember to have star marked on the wheels. Many reported cases of transfer boxes failing because of the wrong type of tyres put on. Also remember that non star marked means no warranty.
From what I've read, the problem with the transfer box is when the rolling radius of the front and rear tyres is significantly different, as would happen if you only changed the front or rear tyres while leaving worn tyres on the other axle. After all, star-marked and non-star marked tyres of the same size should have exactly the same rolling radius.
The BMW star marking - to clarify: This is a mechanism whereby you can be sure that the tyre you are fitting as a replacement is as good as the original that came on the car out of the factory. It's not a warranty requirement.
Tyre manufactures apply the very highest quality assurance to the tyres they supply for factory-fitting by manufacturers. But when the time comes to replace them you are faced with the question 'How can I get as good quality again?' This is what the BMW * tyres are meant to do. It's not mandatory to replace with * tyres. The difference in quality is quite small (but I appreciate you may want that reassurance).
However, it is important to replace tyres with ones that conform fully with the manufacturers specifications. And manufacturers change wheel and tyre spec's regularly. I'm often amazed at how nonchalant people are in giving advice on wheels and tyres on forums when they've nowhere near the full amount of information needed to make a recommendation.
As mentioned, quite small differences in rolling radius or tyre width when replacing just the fronts/rears can cause problems in handling or drivetrain.
So I'd always 1. Look in the owner's manual for the exact spec of wheel and tyre required and 2. ask my BMW dealer to quote for a * replacement (no harm in getting a baseline) using my VIN, but make sure they come back with the full wheel/tyre spec' e.g. 7.5Jx18 +offset, 225/45-18 etc. so that you can be sure what you're being offered by the independent is exactly right for your car.
Tyre manufactures apply the very highest quality assurance to the tyres they supply for factory-fitting by manufacturers. But when the time comes to replace them you are faced with the question 'How can I get as good quality again?' This is what the BMW * tyres are meant to do. It's not mandatory to replace with * tyres. The difference in quality is quite small (but I appreciate you may want that reassurance).
However, it is important to replace tyres with ones that conform fully with the manufacturers specifications. And manufacturers change wheel and tyre spec's regularly. I'm often amazed at how nonchalant people are in giving advice on wheels and tyres on forums when they've nowhere near the full amount of information needed to make a recommendation.
As mentioned, quite small differences in rolling radius or tyre width when replacing just the fronts/rears can cause problems in handling or drivetrain.
So I'd always 1. Look in the owner's manual for the exact spec of wheel and tyre required and 2. ask my BMW dealer to quote for a * replacement (no harm in getting a baseline) using my VIN, but make sure they come back with the full wheel/tyre spec' e.g. 7.5Jx18 +offset, 225/45-18 etc. so that you can be sure what you're being offered by the independent is exactly right for your car.
Edited by msej449 on Tuesday 24th April 15:17
This was discussed at length previously. Frances the Mute's comments are interesting; he works or did work at least for a tyre company:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
lester247 said:
How did you get on with the sub £500 plan. I’m now in need of a set on my f31 330d.
Have run Michelin super sport 4 for 20,000 mile. As they are non run flat the ride grip etc has been great. Did become a bit noisy toward the end of their life.
I've found this but with the Pilot Sport 4s on my E39 touring running 18" Style 37s... They're down to around 5mm evenly worn tread all round, but they're noisy as hell at low'ish speeds.Have run Michelin super sport 4 for 20,000 mile. As they are non run flat the ride grip etc has been great. Did become a bit noisy toward the end of their life.
Personally I'm going to go over to the Vredestein Ultrac Vorti's when I need to change tyres; which will probably be sometime in the next month or so as the noise currently is doing my nut in.
I've had the Vred's before and they're superb tyres...
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