How do E36 Compacts fare for rust?
How do E36 Compacts fare for rust?
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TroubledSoul

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4,669 posts

225 months

Tuesday 4th September 2018
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I know regular E36s are terrible, is the compact any better? Considering using one as a project base...

330ti

124 posts

106 months

Tuesday 4th September 2018
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Not to bad considering they are around twenty years old. I've got/ had several and the only welding needing was to rear jacking points and a front anti roll bar mount. Just look out for the best one you can as they are so cheap. Best starting point is a nice 318ti. I've converted a couple to 2.8 for track use. All easy to do but if you look out for a properly converted car it works out much cheaper ! Beware of badly modified drift cars. What are your plans for one ?

959

229 posts

223 months

Wednesday 5th September 2018
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I can't see how there would be any difference with rust but the saloon has the stiffest shell and more importantly different rear suspension which gives better handling.

My e36 has had 3 jacking points welded and the arches were temporally patched after this photo.

Ive ran out of storage for this unfortunately and it has to go, great cars.

aka_kerrly

12,506 posts

241 months

Wednesday 5th September 2018
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959 said:
I can't see how there would be any difference with rust but the saloon has the stiffest shell and more importantly different rear suspension which gives better handling.

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this old chestnut, why is the E30 perceived as an excellent handling car with a huge cult following yet changing the body to a hatch and suddenly the rear suspension is an inferior design to the Z axle is all thats ever talked about.

OP im with you on this one, there are still a good number of 318ti that are in considerably better condition than 90% of the other e36 coupe/saloons being sold at 2-3times the price.

Or go for a e46 compact for better than e36 setup!!!

959

229 posts

223 months

Wednesday 5th September 2018
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[quote=aka_kerrly]

this old chestnut, why is the E30 perceived as an excellent handling car with a huge cult following yet changing the body to a hatch and suddenly the rear suspension is an inferior design to the Z axle is all thats ever talked about.

Because a lot of people think that the Z axle is better on a e36.


aka_kerrly

12,506 posts

241 months

Wednesday 5th September 2018
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I'm not denying the Z axle is a far superior design and certainly does offer handling improvements, just that because the Compact doesn't have a one to not dismiss them completely and give one a go, a 318TI with the 16v lump is likely to be easier to find than a 318IS

Check out the BMW Compact CUP guys and how well those cars run on GAZ suspension an semi slicks! - that said its probably those guys who have used a shed load of cars over the last few years!!!!!!

TroubledSoul

Original Poster:

4,669 posts

225 months

Wednesday 5th September 2018
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Somehow I've ended up with this topic posting twice confused

Was thinking if I reshell my M3 Evo a Compact might be a decent shout but now I've read a bit more it sounds like I'd have to ditch my Evo rear axle.

aka_kerrly

12,506 posts

241 months

Wednesday 5th September 2018
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TroubledSoul said:
Somehow I've ended up with this topic posting twice confused

Was thinking if I reshell my M3 Evo a Compact might be a decent shout but now I've read a bit more it sounds like I'd have to ditch my Evo rear axle.
e46 compact with e36 engine and box an a e46 m3 rear end??

dhutch

17,906 posts

228 months

Friday 7th September 2018
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I had an £600 N-reg compact with plenty on the clock and didnt really have any rust issues in 3 years owning it.

The bottom edge/return of the front ring, pass side, was dropping off but that's non-structural and easy to fix with basic repair skills or a new wing, as well as being far enough away from suspension/seat mounts not to be an mot issue.


Daniel

E-bmw

13,574 posts

183 months

Friday 7th September 2018
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Until 2 years ago I had a completely rust free e36 coupe, they aren't that uncommon.

Dylan318Ti

72 posts

98 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Bringing up a fairly old post, buuuuut.
E36 compact can be better than others as there seems to be a fair few younger models on X plates etc. Seem to rust in the same places as other E36, such as all four jacking points and the anti roll bar mounts.

Anti roll bar mounts rust because the constant flexing on them breaks the paint and also one edge is exposed which causes it to collect mud. Fairly easy fix, drill out spot welds, replace with new pressed part from BMW (£20 each).

Jacking points are the main problem and are often ignored. Paint cracks and the rust creeps. Have needed to patch both the front ones on mine which is a fairly easy job. The rear ones had rusted through the bottom of the sill, rusted the jacking support away, the inner wing and on one side into the boot floor! Sills from a saloon fit from below the door down and are cheap at £40. I used box section to replace the bottom half of the jacking strut, and then had to make the inner wing and bottom panel out of sheet. Pig of a job, really hard, and one side the fuel filler neck goes through it. Inner wings are NLA from BMW (I tried ordering them from Germany and Poland).

They also rust from where the rear 3/4 meets the boot panel (seen as a crease just under the rear tail light). Boot panels are still available from BMW at around £100 each.

Bottom of front wings rust, but easy to take off and replace. Rear arches rust, but this is from the outside in (not inside out) as there is loads of seam sealer on the inside. Just needs wire brushing off, treating, filling and repainting.

To summarise, rear jacking points are the one that will kill it. Same as other E36 I think.

And I would rather have a 100kg weight advantage than the Z axle biggrin

959

229 posts

223 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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dhutch

17,906 posts

228 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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Looks straight. Good luck with the sale.

iSore

4,011 posts

175 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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959 said:
It's a bit high to start with - I'd lower it to £100 and that'll get some bids in. It's worth £80 on the weigbridge so anything over that is a bonus.

dhutch

17,906 posts

228 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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Yeah, you could always do starting bid of £100, buy now of £270-350 or something. Which then gives and indication of your valuation.

For reference I sold a very similar car, running with a years mot (that cost £500) for £500. Net profit £0.


Daniel

red997

1,304 posts

240 months

Thursday 29th November 2018
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I had to scrap my E36 Compact, due to significant rust; Nearside floorpan under passenger seat to bulkhead area
MOT failure