M140 Shadow Edition
M140 Shadow Edition
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alock

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4,568 posts

242 months

Saturday 3rd November 2018
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I'm giving serious thought to ordering a new M140 Shadow Edition. My local dealer is offering them with almost £8k off list price (BMW and dealer discounts). It is still more than I wanted to spend, but it is the only car that ticks all my boxes; rear wheel drive, 6 cylinder, rear doors with usable rear seats for short journeys, able to carry a bike inside.

If I do buy one, the plan would be to keep it long term, i.e 6+ years.

My concern is that the new 1 series is due next year, so I would be buying something that is already old. However all the rumours are that the new model will be 4 cylinder and 4 wheel drive.

Are BMW offering these deals because it's an old model, or do they always provide huge discounts? Will the last of the small 6 cylinder cars hold their value better than most? Has anyone else recently ordered the old model for similar reasons?

Smuler

2,288 posts

170 months

Sunday 4th November 2018
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I’m sure I’ve read several threads here about discounts on the M Lites 135 and 140 over the lifetime of this generation, 2012 - 2018 but it would be consistent with other models that, at run out, sizeable discounts are offered.
I thought it was set in stone now that the next 1 series will be 4 cylinder and X drive for the hot version. I’ve certainly seen info on a X2M35i the coupe SUV variant which I assume shares the engine and a lot of other bits.

I doubt you are alone in looking to snap up a M140i for the reasons you have given. If you’re not on babybmw join , they might have into. TRL (Tony Lewis) at Berry BMW Heathrow is a big M Lite seller. He might be worth a quote or at least he (or his threads on babybmw) will confirm what the future 1 is expected to be.

ROSSLAV

14 posts

149 months

Monday 5th November 2018
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I was pretty much in the same posistion as you earlier in the year and picked up my M140i in June (from Tony Lewis).

I’ve leased my last few cars but with the discounts offered on the M140i I decided to buy it and keep it longer than the previous two year leases. The fact that the new model will be here in 2019 doesn’t bother me as I’ve had plenty of 4 pot hot hatches in the past and this thing’s in a different league!

va1o

16,117 posts

238 months

Monday 5th November 2018
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I was offered 22.5% off a 440i earlier this month, BMW always seem to be pretty generous with their discounts

The replacement for the M140i will be the next generation M135i xDrive, powered by a 4-cylinder 2.0 engine. It's previewed with the recently announced X2 M35i.

I can't see the new model massively knocking back the residuals. If you're keeping it 6 years+ it's always inevitable there will be new releases during that time!

An M240i might be worth considering as that could be a smarter buy if you want something that will be current generation for longer. But then you're kind of just paying more for the same car with a different bodyshell!

anonymous-user

85 months

Monday 5th November 2018
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HM-2

12,467 posts

200 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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Can you spec the Shadow to not have the godawful gloss black alloys and instead the much nicer gunmetal grey ones?
A colleague has a 140i Shadow in black, with black wheels, and black leather. Far too much black.

craig1912

4,677 posts

143 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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HM-2 said:
Can you spec the Shadow to not have the godawful gloss black alloys and instead the much nicer gunmetal grey ones?
A colleague has a 140i Shadow in black, with black wheels, and black leather. Far too much black.
The standard wheels are orbit grey. The black are a no cost option.

Chestrockwell

2,947 posts

188 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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alock said:
I'm giving serious thought to ordering a new M140 Shadow Edition. My local dealer is offering them with almost £8k off list price (BMW and dealer discounts). It is still more than I wanted to spend, but it is the only car that ticks all my boxes; rear wheel drive, 6 cylinder, rear doors with usable rear seats for short journeys, able to carry a bike inside.

If I do buy one, the plan would be to keep it long term, i.e 6+ years.

My concern is that the new 1 series is due next year, so I would be buying something that is already old. However all the rumours are that the new model will be 4 cylinder and 4 wheel drive.

Are BMW offering these deals because it's an old model, or do they always provide huge discounts? Will the last of the small 6 cylinder cars hold their value better than most? Has anyone else recently ordered the old model for similar reasons?
I wouldn’t say it’s a bad idea to buy one now even though a new model is coming out.

First of all, BMW’s go for the evolutional approach when releasing new models so your one won’t look dated.

Second, even though it will be replaced by no doubt a quicker, more efficient variant, your car will still be a true BMW, longditually mounted straight 6 with RWD.

Third, it’s in a league of its own, every car it competes with bar the RS3 have the same boring 4pot turbo with AWD, including its replacement next year.

I say go for it

alock

Original Poster:

4,568 posts

242 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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I gave in..... I have a test-drive booked for Sunday.

My shortlist of cars is now down to two:
1. A last of the line, best I can find, 130i manual, bought outright with no finance.
2. A new M140i Shadow Edition, part funded with finance.

Basically it has to convince me that it is enough of an improvement to justify the finance commitment.

HM-2

12,467 posts

200 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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craig1912 said:
HM-2 said:
Can you spec the Shadow to not have the godawful gloss black alloys and instead the much nicer gunmetal grey ones?
A colleague has a 140i Shadow in black, with black wheels, and black leather. Far too much black.
The standard wheels are orbit grey. The black are a no cost option.
So they are- intersting I only ever seem to see Shadows with black everything.
Even Orbit is a bit too dark, IMO- much prefer Ferric II.

12TS

2,259 posts

241 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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alock said:
I gave in..... I have a test-drive booked for Sunday.

My shortlist of cars is now down to two:
1. A last of the line, best I can find, 130i manual, bought outright with no finance.
2. A new M140i Shadow Edition, part funded with finance.

Basically it has to convince me that it is enough of an improvement to justify the finance commitment.
Don't get sucked into the big discount - no one pays full price unless they're niave.

But it's the cost to own over a period you need think about. How much would you loose in depreciation + servicing + fixing faults for them? For the 140 you'd need to factor in interest charges vs loss of interest on the 130. Easy smile

I replaced by 130 with a 135 about 6 years ago now. There was a big difference in refinement and on a day to day basis I'd pick the 135 every time, however for a one off drive it'd be the 130 every time. That engine...

craig1912

4,677 posts

143 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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HM-2 said:
So they are- intersting I only ever seem to see Shadows with black everything.
Even Orbit is a bit too dark, IMO- much prefer Ferric II.
Tend to agree- I have one on order with Orbit, although just sorted some wheels for winter tyres and they are the same wheel but silver

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

114 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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BMW do insane deals on cars that are coming to the end of their run. M3 that my parents run, got an £8k deposit contribution from the dealer, an extra £2k from a deal that was running throughout that franchise of dealers, 0% APR with about £4k or thereabouts down. Ended up being high 500's PM for 4 years, compared to the 340i they had before it which was £8k down from the X3 trade in, 5.2% APR (or it might've been 5.6) and about £1k from the dealer. The 340 was high 400's PM with next to no options on it (Media Pro, Electric Mirrors, M Sport +, brown leather and black wood trim) compared to the M3 CP which was a showroom car with 3 miles on the clock with pretty much every extra on it. DO some research into what deals they're offering, get it in a desirable spec and you should get a hefty discount.

matrignano

4,702 posts

241 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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I think the 1 series is moving to a FWD or AWD platform, so the current gen is the last RWD BMW hatch you can buy