e39 525i sport touring what oil you using
e39 525i sport touring what oil you using
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anonymous-user

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84 months

Monday 3rd June 2019
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getting onto about 90k mainly stop start miles for the past 10k and wondering what oil everyone is using... im on castrol edge 0/40 and am noticing an increase in consumption but within spec although recent compression test suggests i may need a new HG in time due to weirdness on cylinder 2

still about 1.5k miles between 1l top ups

naturalaspiration

639 posts

113 months

Monday 3rd June 2019
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Total quartz 9000 5w-40. 3600miles between top ups. Approaching 260k miles. It used to use 1L of oil per 1800 miles, but after having started using LM Ceratec and Oil Saver it has come down. You have no visible oil leaks - oil filter housing gasket, valve cover, CCV etc?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Monday 3rd June 2019
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Very useful thanks. No visible oil leaks and rocker cover gasket new and no vac leaks or other stuff

There is def a hg issue as cyl 2 is down 30 psi based on 2 compression tests by respected indies. On the second test and I had a scope down there and there was some pitting of the hg

It's a real shame as it's sound in all other respects aside from customary rust in the usual areas. I don't mind getting the hg done as the car isn't going anywhere soon and will be passed amongst family members and generations until it gives up the ghost

Just trying to buy a bit of time


d_a_n1979

13,880 posts

102 months

Monday 3rd June 2019
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Do some research into HG replacement on these cars; they don't take to it very well unfortunately. It's generally best to replace the whole engine rather than do the HG work; you could think about sourcing an M54 3.0 unit; IIRC it's a straight swap

Have you had a sniffer test done; is it certain it's HGF and not a gummed up CCV issue?

0W40 oil, IMO, is too thin, 5W30 or 5W40 is much better

Higher mile E39s will burn oil, but yours sounds like it's using a lot...

There's a wealth of knowledge over on: https://forum.bmw5.co.uk/ Feel free to join up smile

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Monday 3rd June 2019
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d_a_n1979 said:
Do some research into HG replacement on these cars; they don't take to it very well unfortunately. It's generally best to replace the whole engine rather than do the HG work; you could think about sourcing an M54 3.0 unit; IIRC it's a straight swap

Have you had a sniffer test done; is it certain it's HGF and not a gummed up CCV issue?

0W40 oil, IMO, is too thin, 5W30 or 5W40 is much better

Higher mile E39s will burn oil, but yours sounds like it's using a lot...

There's a wealth of knowledge over on: https://forum.bmw5.co.uk/ Feel free to join up smile
had no idea about the HG replacement issue..

.. yep sure its HG... had cpc in amersham and dm worx in stoke mandeville confirm the same findings. the scope wont lie and you could see the pitting and partial breach

issue with the engine swap is better the devil and all that... what if the next one is a duff unit?!


Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 3rd June 20:54

tobinen

10,414 posts

175 months

Tuesday 4th June 2019
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Good timing on this thread as I am about to check the dipstick for the first time in 3,000 miles

naturalaspiration

639 posts

113 months

Tuesday 4th June 2019
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tobinen said:
Good timing on this thread as I am about to check the dipstick for the first time in 3,000 miles
My '01 525i has oil level sensor which pops a message when top up is due. Don't they all have it?

Touring442

3,096 posts

239 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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If you're doing an engine swap then a 2.8 M52TU from a 99-2000 528i is a better unit. You'll need to swap over your inlet/exhaust manifolds and engine loom (2-3 hours) but it's a much better engine and doesn't suffer the piston ring wear of the M54. It'll go a bit better as well.

If yours hasn't yet overheated, a head gasket job might be okay. Still a lot of work though.

naturalaspiration

639 posts

113 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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How much have you been quoted for the HG job?

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

254 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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I would consider 10w40 on that engine as it gets older.


alpinab3

239 posts

219 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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No need to switch to thicker oil if there is no excessive oil consumption.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

254 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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alpinab3 said:
No need to switch to thicker oil if there is no excessive oil consumption.
RC1 said:
im on castrol edge 0/40 and am noticing an increase in consumption..

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Wednesday 19th June 2019
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Interesting about the piston rings as that what my Indy suggested

It's not yet severe but in addition to the usual rust its looking uneconomic to repair the car to get it to a standard I am happy with

I always assumed the bodywork would need sorting so would be happy to throw a couple on it but I'm less happy to throw a couple more on engine stuff knowing its worth less than 4

RiccardoG

1,759 posts

302 months

Wednesday 19th June 2019
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RC1 said:
I always assumed the bodywork would need sorting so would be happy to throw a couple on it but I'm less happy to throw a couple more on engine stuff knowing its worth less than 4
A common conundrum for any owner of older cars, I find myself in a similar position with my E39. In my case it has been ruined by people reversing and side-swiping it. That's like £3k to get sorted to "like new" standard. And then there are all mechanical issues on a 20yr old car as things wear out.

But then, if you get a 10yr old car, which will be built a bit differently than the E39, will it actually be any less expensive to maintain and run once you factor in added complication from more modern designs?


tobinen

10,414 posts

175 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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I've just topped up 0.5 litre for 3,000-ish miles. Happy with that (as long as the garage didn't top it up without me knowing).