Car Security - X5/Keyless BMWs
Car Security - X5/Keyless BMWs
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DiamondLights

Original Poster:

334 posts

76 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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Hi all

What are the best options to maximise protection against car theft?

I know key fob pouches (Please suggest?) come up and steering wheel locks, any other suggestions appreciated?

Just worried given X5 tends to be stolen so often.

mekondelta

721 posts

290 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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I use the Disklok ones from Euro Car Parts. They’re inexpensive (about £10-£15) and come in multiple sizes. We also use a StopLock on the steering wheel. You’ll need the Pro one which is bent to cope with the wheel on an X5 (I need it for my X3 so guess the same for X5?). Also handy for opening the passenger wing mirror if you have manual ones!

Pioneer

1,351 posts

161 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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We lock the gates at night and let our german shepherds have the run of the drive. Works a treat wink

hth

MetalMatters

480 posts

79 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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Autowatch Ghost smile

StuntmanMike

15,181 posts

181 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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mekondelta said:
I use the Disklok ones from Euro Car Parts. They’re inexpensive (about £10-£15) and come in multiple sizes. We also use a StopLock on the steering wheel. You’ll need the Pro one which is bent to cope with the wheel on an X5 (I need it for my X3 so guess the same for X5?). Also handy for opening the passenger wing mirror if you have manual ones!
Not taking the pee in any kind of way, but isn’t that a lot of work than pressing a button on a remote?
I get it’s handier in other ways, but every time you get into the car you have to remove that thing.

Zetec-S

6,929 posts

123 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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Pioneer said:
We lock the gates at night and let our german shepherds have the run of the drive. Works a treat wink

hth

DiamondLights

Original Poster:

334 posts

76 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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Got a young family so have concerns heard dodgy stories of breaking and entering and things like that.

Waking up and the car gone is terrible but I could deal with that, just worried about people trying worse things. Am I being over cautious?

mekondelta

721 posts

290 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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StuntmanMike said:
mekondelta said:
I use the Disklok ones from Euro Car Parts. They’re inexpensive (about £10-£15) and come in multiple sizes. We also use a StopLock on the steering wheel. You’ll need the Pro one which is bent to cope with the wheel on an X5 (I need it for my X3 so guess the same for X5?). Also handy for opening the passenger wing mirror if you have manual ones!
Not taking the pee in any kind of way, but isn’t that a lot of work than pressing a button on a remote?
I get it’s handier in other ways, but every time you get into the car you have to remove that thing.
I keep the pouch at home. Seems most of the remote theft happens at home so that’s where we use it. StopLock is visual deterrent, I’m sure a dedicated thief could remove it but hopefully they’ll walk on by. StopLock gets put on wherever we park. It becomes habit quickly. We fold the mirrors all the time so it’s useful for us to unfold the passenger mirror if we forget before getting in the car.

mekondelta

721 posts

290 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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This is the pouch. There’s also a smaller one.

https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/disklok-rfid-farada...

Ninja59

3,691 posts

142 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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You are excessively focused just on the car, you really, depending on area, need to look at the house door handles, locks and glass (laminate glass is what you need, still safety glass like toughened, but is far more resistant to physical attack and will make far more noise). Toughened really is useless from a security perspective.

Outside lighting etc. as well.

Pioneer

1,351 posts

161 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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We leave some fairly high-value cars parked on the drive as the garages are full. The advice we were given is cameras, alarm and floodlights then just the standard car security. We also make sure the main gates and pedestrian gate are locked when it gets dark. Seriously though, the dogs running around outside is the best deterrent out of all of them. Three sons as well helps! The house just looks like to much hassle so hopefully, they'd move on. Saying that, a friend of mine had a van pull up at his a few years ago with 3 guys with shotguns. He had better security than us. They still took the cars, jewelry, and all his paintings in under 10 mins.

James-m5qjf

1,845 posts

77 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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Pioneer said:
We leave some fairly high-value cars parked on the drive as the garages are full. The advice we were given is cameras, alarm and floodlights then just the standard car security. We also make sure the main gates and pedestrian gate are locked when it gets dark. Seriously though, the dogs running around outside is the best deterrent out of all of them. Three sons as well helps! The house just looks like to much hassle so hopefully, they'd move on. Saying that, a friend of mine had a van pull up at his a few years ago with 3 guys with shotguns. He had better security than us. They still took the cars, jewelry, and all his paintings in under 10 mins.
So we just need a gated house and a few dogs..... simple.... I wonder why everyone doesn’t do this?


Edited by James-m5qjf on Sunday 19th July 18:41

Tea Pot One

1,870 posts

258 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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Disklok or Stoplock Pro Elite on the steering wheel.

Pouch for keys as you are aware - and/or keep them in a little safe (something Chubb I have solely for keys but it originally cost the previous house owner about £300 as a £4K rated one which is also handy for passports etc).

As opposed to the Ghost option how about a Pandora Mini BT (alarm and immobiliser with a bluetooth fob - about the size of an SD card - to deactivate the immobiliser).

If you fancy an immobiliser and a Cat 5 Tracker how about a Meta unit ... Meta S5 Deadlock. A tracker with immobiliser and all controlled if you wish from a Smartphone app.

Both the Meta and Pandora options (at £500 to £575) offer better value for money to me than just an immobiliser like the Ghost (which is about £400).

Edited by Tea Pot One on Sunday 19th July 19:00

DiamondLights

Original Poster:

334 posts

76 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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Pioneer said:
We leave some fairly high-value cars parked on the drive as the garages are full. The advice we were given is cameras, alarm and floodlights then just the standard car security. We also make sure the main gates and pedestrian gate are locked when it gets dark. Seriously though, the dogs running around outside is the best deterrent out of all of them. Three sons as well helps! The house just looks like to much hassle so hopefully, they'd move on. Saying that, a friend of mine had a van pull up at his a few years ago with 3 guys with shotguns. He had better security than us. They still took the cars, jewelry, and all his paintings in under 10 mins.
Christ, what car did he have on the drive!?

DiamondLights

Original Poster:

334 posts

76 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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Also, how worried should I be with an X5 parked on my drive?

I know it's a bit finger in the air, but heard/seen a lot about people trying to thieve X5s, people even getting attacked etc, am i over worrying?

helix402

7,913 posts

212 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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DiamondLights said:
Also, how worried should I be with an X5 parked on my drive?

I know it's a bit finger in the air, but heard/seen a lot about people trying to thieve X5s, people even getting attacked etc, am i over worrying?
Yes.

Dominate the landing.

PH_77

1,413 posts

123 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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DiamondLights said:
Also, how worried should I be with an X5 parked on my drive?

I know it's a bit finger in the air, but heard/seen a lot about people trying to thieve X5s, people even getting attacked etc, am i over worrying?
If you live in Birmingham, Manchester, Leeds, Bradford etc, then perhaps you should maybe worry. A garage would help. Or a fenced off driveway. Motion activated security lights are a great deterrent. Watch out for anyone following you home etc. Also watch out for Faraday pouches failing. Test them every so often. Beef up your home security. There's going to be tough times ahead with a massive rise in unemployment on the horizon once the furlough scheme ends so I expect crime will also rise.

Friends of mine in London were broken into years ago for their X5 when they were out. It had a tracker and the police were pretty efficient and found it in a shipping container at a port the next day.

Pioneer

1,351 posts

161 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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DiamondLights said:
Also, how worried should I be with an X5 parked on my drive?

I know it's a bit finger in the air, but heard/seen a lot about people trying to thieve X5s, people even getting attacked etc, am i over worrying?
Yep, you shouldn't be worried. It's insured I assume. Not emotionally attached to it? Means you should sleep soundly at night. If you get jacked on your drive just give them the keys. Foolish to put up a fight over a bit of metal ... esp. one that's insured.

Pioneer

1,351 posts

161 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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DiamondLights said:
Christ, what car did he have on the drive!?
New RR, wife's RS6 and something else, 1 series I think. Belonged to his eldest. Funny enough they left his exotica in the garage. He was more annoyed about his paintings which I've never asked about but always assumed they were worth more than the rest put together.

Way I look at it, if someone wants your car bad enough they'll get it - no matter what. I've never worried about mine, just pay my insurance, take sensible precautions and take my chances.

margerison

1,008 posts

280 months

Monday 20th July 2020
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I assume you've got comfort access?
From 2018 X5s came with the new motion sensing keys which (allegedly) you can swap to on older cars if your local BMW dealer knows the process - mine doesn't!