My 428i is dead. What next? 435i? Luxury?
My 428i is dead. What next? 435i? Luxury?
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Duke Caboom

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2,121 posts

229 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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Sadly, and after only a couple of months of ownership, my 428i M sport has been written off.

The payout is almost exactly what I paid for it so I've got 15k to spend.

I really respected the 428i and every time I try to think of a replacement, I come back to the 4 Series. But, while it felt very competent and comfortable and good looking, ît never seemed that "special".

So I'm thinking of variations on the 4 Series. Convertible? 6 cylinder? Luxury rather than M sport?

Questions: did I read somewhere that all 35is have sports seats and sports suspension? Even luxury and SE?

If I went from M Sport to luxury what gizmos would I lose? (I like the chrome and wouldn't miss the body kit!)

I don't need the extra performance of the 35 over the 28, but is the noise better / more characterful?

Can you get two large child seats in the back of a convertible?

Thanks

Duke Caboom

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2,121 posts

229 months

Monday 14th December 2020
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And another questsion:

Sports don't have sprts suspension, do they, only M Sports have sports suspension as standard?

I've spent all weekend thinking about it and think I have decided I want the same as the old car. (428i M Sport, less than 55k miles, grown up colours)

Smuler

2,288 posts

169 months

Monday 14th December 2020
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See if you can google a brochure , usually find them in pdf online. That will show for definite the uplift between trims , e.g. sport and M sport ; though I’m confident the M Sport suspension is different.

I’d go for a six cylinder if possible , but not a luxury as the ones I’ve driven didn’t have sports seats or suspension.

Duke Caboom

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2,121 posts

229 months

Monday 14th December 2020
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Thanks - good advice

Luke.

12,036 posts

280 months

Monday 14th December 2020
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Have you considered the 6 Series convertible? Same sort of cash.

Duke Caboom

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2,121 posts

229 months

Monday 14th December 2020
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Luke. said:
Have you considered the 6 Series convertible? Same sort of cash.
Yes, I have. An I do feel it is likely to be more special. But the rear seats will be too small for my nine year old on longer journeys, I think.

Duke Caboom

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2,121 posts

229 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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Still on this, but fluctuating wildly. One minute I've decided that a 320d Touring will be "enough" and they are good value and fairly easy to find. Next minute I'm looking at 330i convertibles.

I'm wondering if the reason the 428 didn't feel special was either the 4 cylinder engine or the auto. Both of which were very efficient but lacked sparkle.

So I quite fancy a manual six cylinder petrol - all 3 of my previous BMWs have been this. But that rules out F30 unless I go all the way to 335. E90 33Oi?

p1stonhead

30,421 posts

197 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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M235i is the answer surely? You can easily get child seats in.

Maybe even the convertible? Top down 6 cylinder loveliness.

I’d always go approved used with a BMW and you can get them for about £16500-17500 as a lower end

https://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/vehicle/202010084759086...

You’ll easily achieve £15k private unless you want to chuck a couple grand in for peace of mind.

Edited by p1stonhead on Friday 18th December 08:11

Deep Thought

40,169 posts

227 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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Duke Caboom said:
Still on this, but fluctuating wildly. One minute I've decided that a 320d Touring will be "enough" and they are good value and fairly easy to find. Next minute I'm looking at 330i convertibles.

I'm wondering if the reason the 428 didn't feel special was either the 4 cylinder engine or the auto. Both of which were very efficient but lacked sparkle.

So I quite fancy a manual six cylinder petrol - all 3 of my previous BMWs have been this. But that rules out F30 unless I go all the way to 335. E90 33Oi?
IMHO, and as you're thinking yourself, your 428i didnt feel special as it was a 4 banger.

Go test drive a 435i auto or 440i auto. Or if a manual is your thing find one of those and try. The 3.0i turbo is a superb engine.

I've an E90 330i as well as a M140i. The E90 330i (Or did you mean E92?) is a lovely car but feeling its age now and it will feel a generation behind what you had. Some really nice ones still about. Maybe find as late a model one as you can to test drive and see what you think.

Deep Thought

40,169 posts

227 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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I probably wouldnt go for Luxury spec in a 435i. Luxury spec is neither fish nor fowl IMHO in a car with that engine.

Deep Thought

40,169 posts

227 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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p1stonhead said:
M235i is the answer surely? You can easily get child seats in.

Maybe even the convertible? Top down 6 cylinder loveliness.
Good shout actually...


savvy

114 posts

233 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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I have a 435i GC luxury that has sports seats and M suspension but I think was additional spec’d.

I absolutely love it and definitely recommend

carcrazypop

579 posts

194 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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I'd go 435/440i auto if I was you, I did and I love it. Beautiful 6 cylinder engine which is smooth & powerful plus brilliant 8-speed auto, one of the best auto boxes I've driven.

The M235i is a great little car, I had one a few years back, but always felt the looks were a bit 'soft' and it definitely looks under-wheeled; if you want a convertible, deffo a 4-series for the hard top roof.

Good luck.

p1stonhead

30,421 posts

197 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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carcrazypop said:
I'd go 435/440i auto if I was you, I did and I love it. Beautiful 6 cylinder engine which is smooth & powerful plus brilliant 8-speed auto, one of the best auto boxes I've driven.

The M235i is a great little car, I had one a few years back, but always felt the looks were a bit 'soft' and it definitely looks under-wheeled; if you want a convertible, deffo a 4-series for the hard top roof.

Good luck.
I had a 4 series convertible and it felt like it weighed a billion tons.

It’s 250kg(!) heavier than the coupe.

When the roof was down and in the boot it felt extremely tail heavy.

carcrazypop

579 posts

194 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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p1stonhead said:
carcrazypop said:
I'd go 435/440i auto if I was you, I did and I love it. Beautiful 6 cylinder engine which is smooth & powerful plus brilliant 8-speed auto, one of the best auto boxes I've driven.

The M235i is a great little car, I had one a few years back, but always felt the looks were a bit 'soft' and it definitely looks under-wheeled; if you want a convertible, deffo a 4-series for the hard top roof.

Good luck.
I had a 4 series convertible and it felt like it weighed a billion tons.

It’s 250kg(!) heavier than the coupe.

When the roof was down and in the boot it felt extremely tail heavy.
I take your point, I've actually got the coupe; if I wanted a convertible though, I'd still go for the 4-series rather than the rag top with the 2-series, each to their own.

Stuart70

4,166 posts

213 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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I had a 435i M-Sport convertible. Dreadful wobbly poser of a thing, lasted 2 months before trading it for a 911.

Duke Caboom

Original Poster:

2,121 posts

229 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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OP here. Still changing mind every 3 minutes. 235i in lead. They are under wheeled though. And a bit dumpy.

Everything I read says they will have more sparkle than 4 series though. 4 series far better looking!

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

264 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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Going on your previous car history, I would question if any newish BMW would have the sparkle you are looking for..

Be brave, go wild.

croissant

1,262 posts

168 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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You could get a decent e92/e93 M3 V8 for the money too

Duke Caboom

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2,121 posts

229 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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SidewaysSi said:
Going on your previous car history, I would question if any newish BMW would have the sparkle you are looking for..

Be brave, go wild.
e46M3 currently the top of the list and has been for 48 hours - a record! Also Alpinas.

Anyonw want to take a guess - if an M3 and a B3S are the same price now, which one will be worth more in 5 years time? (This is a good argument with my wife who was please with the value change on my Mk1 Golf, and a few other "future classics" I've owned.

6 series also amazing value so not going away!