BMW cuts out 5 minutes after starting
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Can any one help with my 1996 525i.
A couple of days ago I started my BMW and backed it out of my garage. It always starts without a problem and I let it run to warm up..After 5 minutes the engine cut out and would not restart. I tried to start it after an hour then after 2 hours but no joy. Cranking is fine. After 8 hours it started again and did exactly the same thing (i.e cut out after 5 minutes.) Yesterday was a repeat - started first time, ran smoothly and stopped after 5 minutes.
Any suggestions would be appreciated
A couple of days ago I started my BMW and backed it out of my garage. It always starts without a problem and I let it run to warm up..After 5 minutes the engine cut out and would not restart. I tried to start it after an hour then after 2 hours but no joy. Cranking is fine. After 8 hours it started again and did exactly the same thing (i.e cut out after 5 minutes.) Yesterday was a repeat - started first time, ran smoothly and stopped after 5 minutes.
Any suggestions would be appreciated
Malcolmkeith said:
Can any one help with my 1996 525i.
A couple of days ago I started my BMW and backed it out of my garage. It always starts without a problem and I let it run to warm up..After 5 minutes the engine cut out and would not restart. I tried to start it after an hour then after 2 hours but no joy. Cranking is fine. After 8 hours it started again and did exactly the same thing (i.e cut out after 5 minutes.) Yesterday was a repeat - started first time, ran smoothly and stopped after 5 minutes.
Any suggestions would be appreciated
You need to find someone with INPA local to you (indy BMW garage, someone on these pages or Facebook if you're on there etc) to read the codes properly and see the live data & that'll let you know what codes have been stored etc... Don't use a generic reader, it'll just give you generic codesA couple of days ago I started my BMW and backed it out of my garage. It always starts without a problem and I let it run to warm up..After 5 minutes the engine cut out and would not restart. I tried to start it after an hour then after 2 hours but no joy. Cranking is fine. After 8 hours it started again and did exactly the same thing (i.e cut out after 5 minutes.) Yesterday was a repeat - started first time, ran smoothly and stopped after 5 minutes.
Any suggestions would be appreciated
But the usual suspects are:
- Air intake boot split between the MAF and throttle body; check all this carefully and if any splits/cracks, replace those sections
- Cam/crank sensor failed or failing (more than likely this); they need to be replaced with OEM BMW sensors ONLY, as aftermarket ones are crap at best
- MAF failing or failed; again, needs to be replaced with OEM BMW only
- You need to listen for the fuel pump priming when you turn the ignition on, but not start the engine. So confirm this if you can
You can unplug the MAF and run it that way and see how it behaves first
Malcolmkeith said:
Can any one help with my 1996 525i.
A couple of days ago I started my BMW and backed it out of my garage. It always starts without a problem and I let it run to warm up..After 5 minutes the engine cut out and would not restart. I tried to start it after an hour then after 2 hours but no joy. Cranking is fine. After 8 hours it started again and did exactly the same thing (i.e cut out after 5 minutes.) Yesterday was a repeat - started first time, ran smoothly and stopped after 5 minutes.
Any suggestions would be appreciated
When did you last change the fuel filter?A couple of days ago I started my BMW and backed it out of my garage. It always starts without a problem and I let it run to warm up..After 5 minutes the engine cut out and would not restart. I tried to start it after an hour then after 2 hours but no joy. Cranking is fine. After 8 hours it started again and did exactly the same thing (i.e cut out after 5 minutes.) Yesterday was a repeat - started first time, ran smoothly and stopped after 5 minutes.
Any suggestions would be appreciated
d_a_n1979 said:
- Cam/crank sensor failed or failing (more than likely this); they need to be replaced with OEM BMW sensors ONLY, as aftermarket ones are crap at best
That would be my feeling too.Re the cutting out, is that instant or does it run poorly for a period of time before that?
Apart from the cutting out, does the car run fine, no hesitation etc?
d_a_n1979 said:
You need to find someone with INPA local to you (indy BMW garage, someone on these pages or Facebook if you're on there etc) to read the codes properly and see the live data & that'll let you know what codes have been stored etc... Don't use a generic reader, it'll just give you generic codes
But the usual suspects are:
- Air intake boot split between the MAF and throttle body; check all this carefully and if any splits/cracks, replace those sections
- Cam/crank sensor failed or failing (more than likely this); they need to be replaced with OEM BMW sensors ONLY, as aftermarket ones are crap at best
- MAF failing or failed; again, needs to be replaced with OEM BMW only
- You need to listen for the fuel pump priming when you turn the ignition on, but not start the engine. So confirm this if you can
You can unplug the MAF and run it that way and see how it behaves first
You can’t disconnect the maf on these early ones - it will just cut out as it doesn’t run on an default value like the later ones.But the usual suspects are:
- Air intake boot split between the MAF and throttle body; check all this carefully and if any splits/cracks, replace those sections
- Cam/crank sensor failed or failing (more than likely this); they need to be replaced with OEM BMW sensors ONLY, as aftermarket ones are crap at best
- MAF failing or failed; again, needs to be replaced with OEM BMW only
- You need to listen for the fuel pump priming when you turn the ignition on, but not start the engine. So confirm this if you can
You can unplug the MAF and run it that way and see how it behaves first
Worth also checking the front crank pulley as this is where the crank sensor pickup is and they can begin to droop and go lopsided on old ones which interfere with the pickup signal and cause non starting and cutting out.
Elliot2000 said:
d_a_n1979 said:
You need to find someone with INPA local to you (indy BMW garage, someone on these pages or Facebook if you're on there etc) to read the codes properly and see the live data & that'll let you know what codes have been stored etc... Don't use a generic reader, it'll just give you generic codes
But the usual suspects are:
- Air intake boot split between the MAF and throttle body; check all this carefully and if any splits/cracks, replace those sections
- Cam/crank sensor failed or failing (more than likely this); they need to be replaced with OEM BMW sensors ONLY, as aftermarket ones are crap at best
- MAF failing or failed; again, needs to be replaced with OEM BMW only
- You need to listen for the fuel pump priming when you turn the ignition on, but not start the engine. So confirm this if you can
You can unplug the MAF and run it that way and see how it behaves first
You can’t disconnect the maf on these early ones - it will just cut out as it doesn’t run on an default value like the later ones.But the usual suspects are:
- Air intake boot split between the MAF and throttle body; check all this carefully and if any splits/cracks, replace those sections
- Cam/crank sensor failed or failing (more than likely this); they need to be replaced with OEM BMW sensors ONLY, as aftermarket ones are crap at best
- MAF failing or failed; again, needs to be replaced with OEM BMW only
- You need to listen for the fuel pump priming when you turn the ignition on, but not start the engine. So confirm this if you can
You can unplug the MAF and run it that way and see how it behaves first
Worth also checking the front crank pulley as this is where the crank sensor pickup is and they can begin to droop and go lopsided on old ones which interfere with the pickup signal and cause non starting and cutting out.

Elliot2000 said:
d_a_n1979 said:
You need to find someone with INPA local to you (indy BMW garage, someone on these pages or Facebook if you're on there etc) to read the codes properly and see the live data & that'll let you know what codes have been stored etc... Don't use a generic reader, it'll just give you generic codes
But the usual suspects are:
- Air intake boot split between the MAF and throttle body; check all this carefully and if any splits/cracks, replace those sections
- Cam/crank sensor failed or failing (more than likely this); they need to be replaced with OEM BMW sensors ONLY, as aftermarket ones are crap at best
- MAF failing or failed; again, needs to be replaced with OEM BMW only
- You need to listen for the fuel pump priming when you turn the ignition on, but not start the engine. So confirm this if you can
You can unplug the MAF and run it that way and see how it behaves first
You can’t disconnect the maf on these early ones - it will just cut out as it doesn’t run on an default value like the later ones.But the usual suspects are:
- Air intake boot split between the MAF and throttle body; check all this carefully and if any splits/cracks, replace those sections
- Cam/crank sensor failed or failing (more than likely this); they need to be replaced with OEM BMW sensors ONLY, as aftermarket ones are crap at best
- MAF failing or failed; again, needs to be replaced with OEM BMW only
- You need to listen for the fuel pump priming when you turn the ignition on, but not start the engine. So confirm this if you can
You can unplug the MAF and run it that way and see how it behaves first
Malcolmkeith said:
Just to let people know;- the fault was diagnosed as the crank sensor by H W Autos. Sensor was replaced and all is now well. Thanks to all contributors and to HW Autos (Four Marks) who were excellent.
As per my first guesses then
Glad it's all sorted 
I hope they fitted an OEM BMW sensor and not an aftermarket one
d_a_n1979 said:
Malcolmkeith said:
Just to let people know;- the fault was diagnosed as the crank sensor by H W Autos. Sensor was replaced and all is now well. Thanks to all contributors and to HW Autos (Four Marks) who were excellent.
As per my first guesses then
Glad it's all sorted 
I hope they fitted an OEM BMW sensor and not an aftermarket one
Elliot2000 said:
You can’t disconnect the maf on these early ones - it will just cut out as it doesn’t run on an default value like the later ones.
You can, it's M3.3.1 Motronic; I had a 1995 525i M50TU with a running problem and once the MAF was disconnected it went a lot better. It turned out to be a Chinese no name no blame MAF that was NFG. I had the same thing on a 1992 E36 320i (M3.1 non vanos) and others the most recent being a 1996 528i E39. The other E34 problem with cutting out is the fuel pump. They start to seize, overload and stop working. They normally restart immediately but for a couple of seconds only. Eventually they just stop working completely.
When it stops, pull the intake boot off and fire a bit of fuel in past the throttle body straight away. If it bursts into life, my $$$ is on the pump. If it doesn't, it's likely to be the crank sensor.
Only buy a genuine Bosch one btw or from BMW.
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