2021 320d wow

[torqueofthedevil]

Currently have one as a courtesy car whilst me e90 m3 is in. Wow it’s a nice car! The inside is such a nice place to be and the interface / dash / Idrive is much better than even cars around 2019.

I’m really impressed, when I do get rid of the m3 I’d have no problem going back to something like that.

[curvature]

I agree, they are very nicely finished.

[Chamon_Lee]

day to day I find it hard to believe anyone who would need more.

[cerb4.5lee]

Chamon_Lee said:

day to day I find it hard to believe anyone who would need more.

I'd need the 330d or 335d to be honest!

I personally just don't enjoy using or listening to a 4 cylinder diesel engine. They don't feel in anyway premium to sit behind for me. However in saying that, I can understand why the majority love them though.

[SteBrown91]

cerb4.5lee said:

I'd need the 330d or 335d to be honest!

I personally just don't enjoy using or listening to a 4 cylinder diesel engine. They don't feel in anyway premium to sit behind for me. However in saying that, I can understand why the majority love them though.

Tbh in the new 3 series its not intrusive as its a well insualted cabin with double glazing. Only if you open the window is it the usual clatter.

[cerb4.5lee]

SteBrown91 said:

Tbh in the new 3 series its not intrusive as its a well insualted cabin with double glazing. Only if you open the window is it the usual clatter.

I was fortunate to compare a GLE300d(2.0 4 cyl diesel) recently to my GLE400d(2.9 straight 6 diesel). I was shocked at the difference between the 2 engines. The 6 cylinder engine is lovely and smooth to use, and it is even fairly decent to listen to as well. Yet the 4 cylinder engine was gruff and it felt strained when you pushed it in comparison.

I think that if you don't care about engines then a 4 cylinder diesel engine will definitely do the job, but if you do care about engines then it just won't hit the spot I reckon.

I didn't realise that the new 3 series had double glazing, and I bet that does make a difference for sure.

[hilly10]

I have the new X3 that also is a beautiful place to be, never thought they could get that 2.0 d so quite I know it’s got double glazing but even standing outside the car on cold start up it’s whisper quite, and as the OP said the I drive 7 interface is a delight, throw in HUD is fantastic, never get tired of a motorway drive

[Welshbeef]

Does it rev to 6,000 rpm now?

[Geffg]

Does the new 3 series really have double glazing? Thought that would of only been on the likes of a top 7 series

[Tea Pot One]

Geffg said:

Does the new 3 series really have double glazing? Thought that would of only been on the likes of a top 7 series

My X3 has it …. So I guess it is going to be an option on lots of models.

[njw1]

cerb4.5lee said:

I'd need the 330d or 335d to be honest!

I personally just don't enjoy using or listening to a 4 cylinder diesel engine. They don't feel in anyway premium to sit behind for me. However in saying that, I can understand why the majority love them though.

A mate of mine had a 320d and swore by it, said why would you need the bigger engine, what's the point? Etc, Etc, then he tried a 330d and now says he'll never go back to a four pot!

[AI1601]

I agree, BMW has done a smashing job with the G20. Probably the best everyday saloon you can buy right now. I just hope they don’t butcher it when the lci facelift arrives..

[smashy]

njw1 said:

A mate of mine had a 320d and swore by it, said why would you need the bigger engine, what's the point? Etc, Etc, then he tried a 330d and now says he'll never go back to a four pot!

I had a 120d then I got a new F30 330d for 7 years totally different engine better in every way and actually just a touch better mpg. Had to sell it as Euro 5 so for the last few months have an F30 335d.

That engine feels so much better than the 330d believe it or not like a different engine entirely, relentless power as opposed to waiting for the turbo to kick in. Payback is 10% less fuel efficient.

But to be honest on my 400 miles a week I do not come anywhere close to using its capabilities,pointless really but...... nice to have though that is the problem.

[Touring442]

I've only driven a 320i Automatic in the current 3 Series and found the refinement astonishing, almost silent at 70 mph.

They aren't the BMW I remember from my youth but I can understand why so many are sold.

[aaron_2000]

njw1 said:

A mate of mine had a 320d and swore by it, said why would you need the bigger engine, what's the point? Etc, Etc, then he tried a 330d and now says he'll never go back to a four pot!

I had both the 320d and 330d (E46's) and found the 320 felt much lighter on its feet and sharper turn in, the 330 felt a little nose heavy. I'd still take a 330 over a 320 any day of the week though.

[Chamon_Lee]

cerb4.5lee said:

Chamon_Lee said:

day to day I find it hard to believe anyone who would need more.

I'd need the 330d or 335d to be honest!

I personally just don't enjoy using or listening to a 4 cylinder diesel engine. They don't feel in anyway premium to sit behind for me. However in saying that, I can understand why the majority love them though.

Don’t get me wrong I’ve not had anything less than a 3 litre for over 12 years now but I still think day to day it’s hard to beat for majority of people.

I’m not saying I’d have love having one but I certainly wouldn’t be hateful if I had one for a couple of years.

[cerb4.5lee]

Chamon_Lee said:

I’m not saying I’d have love having one but I certainly wouldn’t be hateful if I had one for a couple of years.

I was hoping that the E61 520d Touring that I had was going to be alright to be honest, but for me I loved the car...however I genuinely hated the engine though. I guess that if I hadn't experienced other more capacity/more cylinder BMW engines previously to it though...then I'd probably be a bit more kind to the 20d engine(I went from a X5 4.8iS to the 520d for example).


My 520d had a manual gearbox though and that wasn't a great match to the engine for me, whereas I did try an E92 320d auto at the same time that I had the 520d, and that definitely felt a lot less rough to use and I think the auto helped to make it feel a touch smoother to use as well.

[Roley130]

hilly10 said:

I have the new X3 that also is a beautiful place to be, never thought they could get that 2.0 d so quite I know it’s got double glazing but even standing outside the car on cold start up it’s whisper quite, and as the OP said the I drive 7 interface is a delight, throw in HUD is fantastic, never get tired of a motorway drive

I also have a 8 month old X3 20D and yes I am super-pleased with it. I wasnt aware mine had double glazing ? My only real beef is no active cruise control even with the Tech Pack. The car is brilliantly soundproofed and the 20d 190BHP engine with the mild hybrid function has enough performance tan I would ever want. Yes I did drool over the 30d but I didnt want to spend any more cash really.

[Court_S]

njw1 said:

A mate of mine had a 320d and swore by it, said why would you need the bigger engine, what's the point? Etc, Etc, then he tried a 330d and now says he'll never go back to a four pot!

Chap I work with was the same. As a Yorkshireman he swore that the 520d was enough. He eventually gave in abs bought a 530d which he had had a couple of….he’s now in a 535d.

The latest BMW interiors are really very good in my opinion; they’re well made and still have buttons!

[Welshbeef]

Court_S said:

njw1 said:

A mate of mine had a 320d and swore by it, said why would you need the bigger engine, what's the point? Etc, Etc, then he tried a 330d and now says he'll never go back to a four pot!

Chap I work with was the same. As a Yorkshireman he swore that the 520d was enough. He eventually gave in abs bought a 530d which he had had a couple of….he’s now in a 535d.

The latest BMW interiors are really very good in my opinion; they’re well made and still have buttons!

I enjoyed my 330d and loved the 535d - I’ve had many x20ds as cars when mine was in for servicing. I made sure that I would drive those cars on the exact same commute route and at the same pace I normally did - they were not good, rubbish sound , gutless and economy to my surprise was very very close to what I was achieving.