N52 3.0 powered 1 and 3 series MPG
N52 3.0 powered 1 and 3 series MPG
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cirian75

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5,759 posts

263 months

Tuesday 27th September 2022
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Looking at getting a E92 3.0 manual with the N52 motor

Now with E10 fuel

What MPG are you getting?

nickfrog

25,396 posts

247 months

Tuesday 27th September 2022
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It massively varies with usage pattern and driving style but my E82 125i tuned back to 130i power returned around 30mpg for a balanced mix of town, m'way and A road driving with a balanced mix of enthusiasm, which I though was great.

You could get 37/38 on a long conservative run though which I remember hitting on the way to the Ring, to be ruined in the space of 10 laps though!

Amusingly, I get the same mpg out of the M2.

daver1184

136 posts

201 months

Tuesday 27th September 2022
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Same here.
For my 2005 E90 330i SE, a combined figure of 28-30 mpg is usual, with an extreme constant m'way econo drive figure of 37 possible...
Commuting up and down the M1 in 50 limits, I once did a genuine 500 miles to a tank...

cirian75

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5,759 posts

263 months

Tuesday 27th September 2022
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Sounds good, better than the IS250 that's a real guzzler

Court_S

14,750 posts

207 months

Tuesday 27th September 2022
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My E90 330 with an auto returned c.23 around town and up to 36 on a long run.

My manual 130i returned an average of 28mpg in the year or so that I had it. I’d see low 30’s on a run.

My other half’s 125i (remapped to 130i power) is more economical despite being a heavier cabriolet. It seems to sit around 30mpg with my other half doing lots of short journeys and will rise to 37 on a run.

Waynester

6,532 posts

280 months

Tuesday 27th September 2022
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E63 630i - best I ever saw was 41mpg, but that was on along run down to my parents on the south coast.. driving like Miss Daisy.

I tend to average around 24-26 mpg but…that’s 100% A to B town driving, backwards and forwards to the gym etc..

Mr Tidy

31,572 posts

157 months

Tuesday 27th September 2022
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I've only ever used E5 petrol in mine as the handbook recommends a minimum of 98 RON whenever possible.

I've had two Z4s with the N52 engine, an E91 325i and currently an E90 330i and they have all averaged around 33mpg during my ownership, but as I'm no longer working they don't sit in traffic during busy times of day if I can avoid it!

2 GKC

2,315 posts

135 months

Tuesday 27th September 2022
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28 mpg average from auto E91 330i

Terrific engine

cirian75

Original Poster:

5,759 posts

263 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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My plan is buy a decent E92 3.0 218hp manual

White, black or blue.

And assume it needs a £1000 spending on it excluding tyres/servicing/brakes to make it right.

Going to have the pre-emptive stuff done like water pump, thermostat, coils and valvetronic gasket, oil filter body. and any oil leaks

Mr Tidy

31,572 posts

157 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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cirian75 said:
My plan is buy a decent E92 3.0 218hp manual

White, black or blue.

And assume it needs a £1000 spending on it excluding tyres/servicing/brakes to make it right.

Going to have the pre-emptive stuff done like water pump, thermostat, coils and valvetronic gasket, oil filter body. and any oil leaks
Be careful - the 218 bhp 3 litre has the potentially more troublesome N53 engine. The 218 bhp N52 engine is a 2.5 litre.

But you might as well look for a 3 litre N52 as the running costs are the same for both and the 3 litre definitely has a bit more urge - which is why I replaced my E91 325i with an E90 330i.

As well as what you have mentioned cam-cover gaskets can also leak.

cirian75

Original Poster:

5,759 posts

263 months

Friday 30th September 2022
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Mr Tidy said:
cirian75 said:
My plan is buy a decent E92 3.0 218hp manual

White, black or blue.

And assume it needs a £1000 spending on it excluding tyres/servicing/brakes to make it right.

Going to have the pre-emptive stuff done like water pump, thermostat, coils and valvetronic gasket, oil filter body. and any oil leaks
Be careful - the 218 bhp 3 litre has the potentially more troublesome N53 engine. The 218 bhp N52 engine is a 2.5 litre.

But you might as well look for a 3 litre N52 as the running costs are the same for both and the 3 litre definitely has a bit more urge - which is why I replaced my E91 325i with an E90 330i.

As well as what you have mentioned cam-cover gaskets can also leak.
Just a a look at the N53, injectors are £300 each and need to be coded, and they do fail = £1800 plus fitting and coding yikes!

cirian75

Original Poster:

5,759 posts

263 months

Friday 30th September 2022
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Have now found out how to ID and N52 from a N53 by just looking at the top of the engine bay smile

Pica-Pica

16,640 posts

114 months

Friday 30th September 2022
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Waynester said:
E63 630i - best I ever saw was 41mpg, but that was on along run down to my parents on the south coast.. driving like Miss Daisy.

I tend to average around 24-26 mpg but…that’s 100% A to B town driving, backwards and forwards to the gym etc..
It has to be said … Miss Daisy did not drive, she was the passenger.

Court_S

14,750 posts

207 months

Friday 30th September 2022
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cirian75 said:
Have now found out how to ID and N52 from a N53 by just looking at the top of the engine bay smile
Early N52’s are easy to spot because they have a magnesium valve cover rather than black plastic.

The valve covers on the N53 are slightly different to those of the later N52…

‘Black top’ N52



N53 with an identifier circled


Mr Tidy

31,572 posts

157 months

Friday 30th September 2022
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cirian75 said:
Have now found out how to ID and N52 from a N53 by just looking at the top of the engine bay smile
The other clues are the engine size for 325is - N52 it is 2.5 litre but N53 it is a 3 litre.

Plus N52s are all Band K for Road Tax, N53s are slightly lower IIRC.

Sofa

706 posts

122 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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I've got an E82 125i manual (stock) run almost exclusively on Costco E10 and have also averaged 30mpg in the 8 months/6,000 miles or so that I've owned it. Pretty good considering a good proportion of my driving is around Bristol- which can be so frustrating that when I do get to a nice open country road I tend to drive fairly enthusiastically. laugh

On a run you can break 40mpg without *too* much hassle- the below was after a fairly clear (mostly motorway) run with the cruise set around 77mph where possible, and a few 50mph sections due to smart motorways/roadworks. I had a few bursts on slip roads etc too so I reckon if you were really disciplined and stuck below 70mph you could get further into the 40's.



Edited by Sofa on Saturday 1st October 11:19

cirian75

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263 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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Sofa said:
I've got a bone-stock E82 125i manual and have also averaged 30mpg in the 8 months/6,000 miles or so that I've owned it. Pretty good considering a good proportion of my driving is either around Bristol- which can be so frustrating that when I do get to a nice open country road I tend to drive fairly enthusiastically. laugh

On a run you can break 40mpg without *too* much hassle- the below was after a fairly clear (mostly motorway) run with the cruise set around 77mph where possible, and a few 50mph sections due to smart motorways/roadworks. I had a few bursts on slip roads etc too so I reckon if you were really disciplined and stuck below 70mph you could get further into the 40's.

Aye, one the reasons the E92 has come on my radar is my 09 Swift, E10 petrol has ruined the MPG, gets 32 around town now, so why am I paying 2.0+ fuel consumption when I could have a 3.0 BMW?

Sofa

706 posts

122 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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cirian75 said:
Aye, one the reasons the E92 has come on my radar is my 09 Swift, E10 petrol has ruined the MPG, gets 32 around town now, so why am I paying 2.0+ fuel consumption when I could have a 3.0 BMW?
For me it was an incoming ULEZ zone… £315 tax and 30mpg seem a lot less scary when a little 1.6 diesel is going to cost £9 a day to drive.

nickfrog

25,396 posts

247 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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Sofa said:
I've got an E82 125i manual (stock) run almost exclusively on Costco E10 and have also averaged 30mpg in the 8 months/6,000 miles or so that I've owned it. Pretty good considering a good proportion of my driving is around Bristol- which can be so frustrating that when I do get to a nice open country road I tend to drive fairly enthusiastically. laugh

On a run you can break 40mpg without *too* much hassle- the below was after a fairly clear (mostly motorway) run with the cruise set around 77mph where possible, and a few 50mph sections due to smart motorways/roadworks. I had a few bursts on slip roads etc too so I reckon if you were really disciplined and stuck below 70mph you could get further into the 40's.
Impressive ! Are you tempted to derestrict it back to 130i power?

Sofa

706 posts

122 months

Tuesday 4th October 2022
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nickfrog said:
Impressive ! Are you tempted to derestrict it back to 130i power?
Thanks- the car deserves all the credit really and not my hamfisted driving. laugh It's a fairly small and relatively light package (by modern standards) but still testament to how impressive the N52 is.

Planning to do it sometime next year, maybe just before the summer so I don't kill myself in the cold- will be my first winter with a RWD car so not sure an extra 50hp would be wise! I would quite like to get it on a rolling road too just to see what it's actually making- it runs sweetly but it's just about to tick over 80k so it'd be nice to know for sure everything is as it should, I can be a bit of an automotive hypochondriac and sometimes worry it's not making as much power as it should. Then there's the days I get back in it after driving something slower and could swear it's been mapped- my butt dyno could clearly do with some more calibration. laugh