Used 335d's
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Mikey_W

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4,984 posts

255 months

Sunday 28th October 2007
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My dad is looking at getting a 335d SE Saloon, but his max budget is 24K, does the PH collective think this is realistic? He isn't too bothered on spec / colour / mileage.

We have had a look on the BMW approved used site & Autotrader, but prices range from £25,995 - £30K+

He might be better off getting a 330d SE or waiting until next year?

Cheers

Methane Bloke

264 posts

231 months

Sunday 28th October 2007
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Traders are giving less for 335ds so it might be possible to find one at an auction, but there aren't a lot out there. Having had two 330ds and a 335d I would suggest you hang on!

Regards

Chris

MattOz

4,020 posts

293 months

Sunday 28th October 2007
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Mike,

There's a 335d SE in the classifieds on here for that kind of budget. Have a look here..

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/275416.htm

Worth a haggle IMHO. However, if the budget is maxed out, he can't go wrong with the 330d either. It's a great car and I know that my 330d was giving me 10mpg more than my 535d in exactly the same driving conditions.

Matt

Edited by MattOz on Sunday 28th October 11:12

Mikey_W

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Sunday 28th October 2007
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MattOz said:
Mike,

There's a 335d SE in the classifieds on here for that kind of budget. Have a look.

Matt
This one Matt?
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/275416.htm

Gonna show that to my dad later, its the cheapest one i can find, also advertised in the Autotrader.


535dman

2,723 posts

236 months

Sunday 28th October 2007
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It seems as though this car has a minimal spec - Leather and Bluetooth I think is the only extra option spec'd on this car...you'll find it quite hard to shift this when the time comes...thus the low price now...IMHO

Edited by 535dman on Sunday 28th October 11:50

Mikey_W

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Sunday 28th October 2007
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535dman said:
It seems as though this car has a minimal spec - Leather and Bluetooth I think is the only extra option spec'd on this car...you'll find it quite hard to shift this when the time comes...thus the low price now...IMHO

Edited by 535dman on Sunday 28th October 11:50
What extras would you recommend? We don't want a car that we can't shift in a couple of years time.

535dman

2,723 posts

236 months

Sunday 28th October 2007
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IMO on a car the level of the 335d the Professional Nav (which comes with the Idrive screen) is a must even though many agree the Tom Tom will be just as good. Xenons again a must (think this car may already have them although not listed) as it has the headlight wash...give them a call and find out.

Generally, the M Sport versions always hold their values more than SE's.

Olf

11,978 posts

247 months

Sunday 28th October 2007
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Has that one just arrived?



gizlaroc

17,251 posts

253 months

Sunday 28th October 2007
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Pay the extra and get an M-Sport, the ride is so much better as it uses Bilstein gas shocks and comes with Pilot Sport 2 zero pressure tyres.
Plus the seats in the SE are awful and the seats in the M-Sport are the best seats I have ever had, made the recaros in my S4 look ad feel pants, and put the seats in the 535d sport to shame too.

I would definitely want Prof nav in a 335d, the whole package with bluetooth etc. makes it a very desirable car and will easily sell, people are sort of expecting it now, in another 2 years not having it will be a big mistake.

Oh, I nearly bought an SE 335d touring as it was a good price, that had no nav, but after getting finance figures it worked out £8 a month more for that car (which was £29k) over a 335d m-sport with all the toys costing £34k, all because the residual value, they gave a balloon of £8k on the SE with no nav and £16k on the M-sport, which I think says alot, remember finance houses off loading cars tend to dictate the market value more than anything, yeah it may be worth £15k but of they dump loads out at silly prices no buyer is going to argue they want to pay more.

Mikey_W

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Sunday 28th October 2007
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gizlaroc said:
Pay the extra and get an M-Sport, the ride is so much better as it uses Bilstein gas shocks and comes with Pilot Sport 2 zero pressure tyres.
Plus the seats in the SE are awful and the seats in the M-Sport are the best seats I have ever had, made the recaros in my S4 look ad feel pants, and put the seats in the 535d sport to shame too.

I would definitely want Prof nav in a 335d, the whole package with bluetooth etc. makes it a very desirable car and will easily sell, people are sort of expecting it now, in another 2 years not having it will be a big mistake.

Oh, I nearly bought an SE 335d touring as it was a good price, that had no nav, but after getting finance figures it worked out £8 a month more for that car (which was £29k) over a 335d m-sport with all the toys costing £34k, all because the residual value, they gave a balloon of £8k on the SE with no nav and £16k on the M-sport, which I think says alot, remember finance houses off loading cars tend to dictate the market value more than anything, yeah it may be worth £15k but of they dump loads out at silly prices no buyer is going to argue they want to pay more.
Great advice - many thanks

Basically i need to persuade my dad to raise his budget to 30K(ish) for a used M-Sport or wait till next year for the prices to come down more...

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

253 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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Mikey_W said:
gizlaroc said:
Pay the extra and get an M-Sport, the ride is so much better as it uses Bilstein gas shocks and comes with Pilot Sport 2 zero pressure tyres.
Plus the seats in the SE are awful and the seats in the M-Sport are the best seats I have ever had, made the recaros in my S4 look ad feel pants, and put the seats in the 535d sport to shame too.

I would definitely want Prof nav in a 335d, the whole package with bluetooth etc. makes it a very desirable car and will easily sell, people are sort of expecting it now, in another 2 years not having it will be a big mistake.

Oh, I nearly bought an SE 335d touring as it was a good price, that had no nav, but after getting finance figures it worked out £8 a month more for that car (which was £29k) over a 335d m-sport with all the toys costing £34k, all because the residual value, they gave a balloon of £8k on the SE with no nav and £16k on the M-sport, which I think says alot, remember finance houses off loading cars tend to dictate the market value more than anything, yeah it may be worth £15k but of they dump loads out at silly prices no buyer is going to argue they want to pay more.
Great advice - many thanks

Basically i need to persuade my dad to raise his budget to 30K(ish) for a used M-Sport or wait till next year for the prices to come down more...
Is he paying cash for it then??
If he is financing any of it just add the extra to the balloon, £3k on a balloon will be under £20 a month extra.

sniff petrol

13,125 posts

241 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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This would be a bargain upgrade for someone with a 330d with a knackered engine. Not sure what the mounting positions are for the engine but I'm sure someone could make it fit:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-535-TURBO-DIESEL-ENGINE_...

Methane Bloke

264 posts

231 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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sniff petrol said:
This would be a bargain upgrade for someone with a 330d with a knackered engine. Not sure what the mounting positions are for the engine but I'm sure someone could make it fit:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-535-TURBO-DIESEL-ENGINE_...
I reckon you would need the gearbox to go with it as well.

It's a different engine to that used in the 335d having a cast iron block as opposed to the 335ds aluminium type, but I'm sure someone could make it fit OK.

Be a lot of fun in a kit car.

Regards

Chris

MattOz

4,020 posts

293 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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sniff petrol said:
This would be a bargain upgrade for someone with a 330d with a knackered engine. Not sure what the mounting positions are for the engine but I'm sure someone could make it fit:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-535-TURBO-DIESEL-ENGINE_...
Mmmmmm. Wonder if the engine and 'box would fit in an E46. wink


sniff petrol

13,125 posts

241 months

Tuesday 30th October 2007
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Methane Bloke said:
Be a lot of fun in a kit car.
Especially with one of these:

http://www.tuningbox.com/ANG/marka.php

340bhp and 700nm for an extra £300!!!

Mikey_W

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4,984 posts

255 months

Tuesday 30th October 2007
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gizlaroc said:
Mikey_W said:
gizlaroc said:
Pay the extra and get an M-Sport, the ride is so much better as it uses Bilstein gas shocks and comes with Pilot Sport 2 zero pressure tyres.
Plus the seats in the SE are awful and the seats in the M-Sport are the best seats I have ever had, made the recaros in my S4 look ad feel pants, and put the seats in the 535d sport to shame too.

I would definitely want Prof nav in a 335d, the whole package with bluetooth etc. makes it a very desirable car and will easily sell, people are sort of expecting it now, in another 2 years not having it will be a big mistake.

Oh, I nearly bought an SE 335d touring as it was a good price, that had no nav, but after getting finance figures it worked out £8 a month more for that car (which was £29k) over a 335d m-sport with all the toys costing £34k, all because the residual value, they gave a balloon of £8k on the SE with no nav and £16k on the M-sport, which I think says alot, remember finance houses off loading cars tend to dictate the market value more than anything, yeah it may be worth £15k but of they dump loads out at silly prices no buyer is going to argue they want to pay more.
Great advice - many thanks

Basically i need to persuade my dad to raise his budget to 30K(ish) for a used M-Sport or wait till next year for the prices to come down more...
Is he paying cash for it then??
If he is financing any of it just add the extra to the balloon, £3k on a balloon will be under £20 a month extra.
Yes he will be paying cash. He's been reading this & has taken note of everyones comments, i think he is leaning towards an M-Sport now