DMS 535D
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mikecobain

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5 posts

226 months

Thursday 1st November 2007
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Just had my 535d treated with the DMS curves at Lisburn car care centre and I am totally blown away.

Did much research into this as after spending so much money on the car i didnt want some clampit patching my ECU without thought like a glorified bleed valve. A lot of people complain about the price, but these guys do it right and if you have the money to buy a 535d then dont complain about getting it tuned to perfection by the professionals.

I had a couple of strange issues with mine prior to tuning like occasionally I would get an overboost and sometimes on idle I would notice minor twiches in the rpm clock, but now its all sorted.

DMS claim better economy, but I think I needed to see it to believe it. Normally I can get 38mpg on a motorway and only around 18mpg around the town. SInce its new and I cant stop booting it, I am not sure, but what I do know is there are two distictive issues. 1.) We all know when looking at the mpg gauge on the dash how sensitive it is to being pushed down to 16mpg, but now when driving easy I can float it at the 40 mark much easier and even in all my booting I am getting 22mpg!!!! That is a massive difference.

My first shot of real speed was entering the slip and I can tell you now I shot from 60-140mph relentlessly in no more than 8-10 secs. Even though the car didnt want too, I had to pull it there as even with the electric gate opener wink its licence loosing material.

I think that if you are considering it, then you are mad... Just go and get it done!!!! Also if you read other posts they stand by the mod with their life, free re-writes for 3yrs if BMW over right and insure your car for any damage caused as a result.

I think its gonna take a Ferrari to give me trouble and I cant wait to get a run up the road with a friend who has a Bentley Continental... wink



Edited by mikecobain on Thursday 1st November 22:38

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

227 months

Friday 2nd November 2007
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mikecobain said:
Just had my 535d treated with the DMS curves at Lisburn car care centre and I am totally blown away.

Did much research into this as after spending so much money on the car i didnt want some clampit patching my ECU without thought like a glorified bleed valve. A lot of people complain about the price, but these guys do it right and if you have the money to buy a 535d then dont complain about getting it tuned to perfection by the professionals.

I had a couple of strange issues with mine prior to tuning like occasionally I would get an overboost and sometimes on idle I would notice minor twiches in the rpm clock, but now its all sorted.

DMS claim better economy, but I think I needed to see it to believe it. Normally I can get 38mpg on a motorway and only around 18mpg around the town. SInce its new and I cant stop booting it, I am not sure, but what I do know is there are two distictive issues. 1.) We all know when looking at the mpg gauge on the dash how sensitive it is to being pushed down to 16mpg, but now when driving easy I can float it at the 40 mark much easier and even in all my booting I am getting 22mpg!!!! That is a massive difference.

My first shot of real speed was entering the slip and I can tell you now I shot from 60-140mph relentlessly in no more than 8-10 secs. Even though the car didnt want too, I had to pull it there as even with the electric gate opener wink its licence loosing material.

I think that if you are considering it, then you are mad... Just go and get it done!!!! Also if you read other posts they stand by the mod with their life, free re-writes for 3yrs if BMW over right and insure your car for any damage caused as a result.

I think its gonna take a Ferrari to give me trouble and I cant wait to get a run up the road with a friend who has a Bentley Continental... wink



Edited by mikecobain on Thursday 1st November 22:38
How much extra did this add to your ins premium?

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

288 months

Friday 2nd November 2007
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"60-140mph relentlessly in no more than 8-10 secs"

lol.

Assuming a 0-60 of (being generous) 5 seconds are you seriously claiming that it'll do 0-140 in 13-15 seconds? Dream world.

For reference the Carrera GT takes 17.3 seconds 0-150 and the 997 Turbo takes 21.2 0-150....

clonmult

10,529 posts

238 months

Friday 2nd November 2007
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m12_nathan said:
"60-140mph relentlessly in no more than 8-10 secs"

lol.

Assuming a 0-60 of (being generous) 5 seconds are you seriously claiming that it'll do 0-140 in 13-15 seconds? Dream world.

For reference the Carrera GT takes 17.3 seconds 0-150 and the 997 Turbo takes 21.2 0-150....
It'd be possible to do it in that sort of time, assuming a broken stopwatch .... wink

Jonny TVR

4,551 posts

310 months

Friday 2nd November 2007
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Taking delivery of my 535D next month and considering DMS option. Its a lease car and I need to be careful. How much is it and does it really make that much difference to warrant it?

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

227 months

Friday 2nd November 2007
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Jonny TVR said:
Taking delivery of my 535D next month and considering DMS option. Its a lease car and I need to be careful. How much is it and does it really make that much difference to warrant it?
I really doubt they will let you "Upgrade" it also if your insurance is paid for by your company car ins how do you explain to them the Upgrade?? It might be very risky.

In addition a diesel needs a good 40-50k to loosen up properly so your not getting the full power until then why not wait 2-3 years then DMS it?

edx

1,852 posts

236 months

Friday 2nd November 2007
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mikecobain said:
My first shot of real speed was entering the slip and I can tell you now I shot from 60-140mph relentlessly in no more than 8-10 secs.

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I know you're just a bit excited about your mildly breathed on diesel, but that is absolute tosh I'm afraid.

Jonny TVR

4,551 posts

310 months

Friday 2nd November 2007
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Welshbeef said:
Jonny TVR said:
Taking delivery of my 535D next month and considering DMS option. Its a lease car and I need to be careful. How much is it and does it really make that much difference to warrant it?
I really doubt they will let you "Upgrade" it also if your insurance is paid for by your company car ins how do you explain to them the Upgrade?? It might be very risky.

In addition a diesel needs a good 40-50k to loosen up properly so your not getting the full power until then why not wait 2-3 years then DMS it?
Its my company so the insurance is not a problem. By the time it gets to 40K miles I won't have it anymore!

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

227 months

Friday 2nd November 2007
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Jonny TVR said:
Welshbeef said:
Jonny TVR said:
Taking delivery of my 535D next month and considering DMS option. Its a lease car and I need to be careful. How much is it and does it really make that much difference to warrant it?
I really doubt they will let you "Upgrade" it also if your insurance is paid for by your company car ins how do you explain to them the Upgrade?? It might be very risky.

In addition a diesel needs a good 40-50k to loosen up properly so your not getting the full power until then why not wait 2-3 years then DMS it?
Its my company so the insurance is not a problem. By the time it gets to 40K miles I won't have it anymore!
Fair enough - but you see my point if anyone chips their car they have to inform their ins comp else they are uninsured.

BTW very nice motor - I'd need a few steps up the ladder to get a £1500pcm car allowence.

Jonny TVR

4,551 posts

310 months

Friday 2nd November 2007
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its not that much .. im paying around £750 pcm exc maintenance/ insurance for 3 years with a mileage of 15K per year. Value of car is £46k

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

227 months

Friday 2nd November 2007
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Jonny TVR said:
its not that much .. im paying around £750 pcm exc maintenance/ insurance for 3 years with a mileage of 15K per year. Value of car is £46k
So £9k p.a. on lease + ins c£600-800p.a. servicing c£300-500p.a. = c£10k+ p.a.

Which company do you use out of interest?

Ranger 6

7,665 posts

278 months

Friday 2nd November 2007
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m12_nathan said:
Assuming a 0-60 of (being generous) 5 seconds are you seriously claiming that it'll do 0-140 in 13-15 seconds? Dream world.
http://www.letstorquebhp.com/rwd.asp 

0-100 in 12.64 secs
60-100 7.18 secs

Read from that what you will smile

Edited by Ranger 6 on Friday 2nd November 15:12

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

288 months

Friday 2nd November 2007
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Ranger 6 said:
m12_nathan said:
Assuming a 0-60 of (being generous) 5 seconds are you seriously claiming that it'll do 0-140 in 13-15 seconds? Dream world.
http://www.letstorquebhp.com/rwd.asp 

0-100 in 12.64 secs
60-100 7.18 secs

Read from that what you will smile
That it is slow?

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

227 months

Friday 2nd November 2007
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m12_nathan said:
Ranger 6 said:
m12_nathan said:
Assuming a 0-60 of (being generous) 5 seconds are you seriously claiming that it'll do 0-140 in 13-15 seconds? Dream world.
http://www.letstorquebhp.com/rwd.asp 

0-100 in 12.64 secs
60-100 7.18 secs

Read from that what you will smile
That it is slow?
Come off it I dont think anyuone would ever have said that the old 370bhp XJR was slow nor the E39M5 slow and they were cthis time to 100mph (Jag some way behind though).

Jonny TVR

4,551 posts

310 months

Friday 2nd November 2007
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Welshbeef said:
Jonny TVR said:
its not that much .. im paying around £750 pcm exc maintenance/ insurance for 3 years with a mileage of 15K per year. Value of car is £46k
So £9k p.a. on lease + ins c£600-800p.a. servicing c£300-500p.a. = c£10k+ p.a.

Which company do you use out of interest?
HSBC .. they give us their maximum discount allowed as we do all our banking with them.

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

288 months

Friday 2nd November 2007
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Er, in the context of "it's gonna take a ferrari to give me trouble" then it is a lot slower than the OP thinks.

I thought with a million DMS torques it'd be faster than the millenium falcon, but it isn't wink

Oh well, probably a troll anyway biggrin

Hunttheshunt

1,093 posts

269 months

Friday 2nd November 2007
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Be good to organise a race in the 'real world'! All these quoted figures are often bo!!ocks anyway. I've driven a DMS 535d and they are quite rapid.

Besides I'm sure the quote was slightly tongue in cheek! That said, certainly keep up with 328's, 355's TR's etc etc. Last time I looked they were Ferrari's!! On normal roads probably give a 360 a fright..and carries five with luggage!

On the leasing/contract hire front, have a look at Mercedes..offering some quite staggering deals at the moment, £56K car (well Ok big 4x4) on a 3+23 with nav etc etc for £450 a month. Quite fancy a DMS ML420 CDI 370bhp 0-60 in 5.5..see off a 599 with ease......


across a lightly rutted field.


hehe

pgilc1

40,169 posts

226 months

Friday 2nd November 2007
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edx said:
mikecobain said:
My first shot of real speed was entering the slip and I can tell you now I shot from 60-140mph relentlessly in no more than 8-10 secs.

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I know you're just a bit excited about your mildly breathed on diesel, but that is absolute tosh I'm afraid.
That 'mildly breathed on diesel' would give your z4 3.0si a fright, which i can comment on as we own both an 07 z4 3.0si and a remapped 07 535d M Sport.

0-60 just over 5 secs, tops out at around 174mph, 500lb/ft torque.....

pgilc1

40,169 posts

226 months

Friday 2nd November 2007
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m12_nathan said:
Er, in the context of "it's gonna take a ferrari to give me trouble" then it is a lot slower than the OP thinks.

I thought with a million DMS torques it'd be faster than the millenium falcon, but it isn't wink

Oh well, probably a troll anyway biggrin
No, i've the same car, and yes, it leaves that wow factor when you drive it.

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

288 months

Friday 2nd November 2007
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Wow, does yours do 60-140mph in 8 seconds too? Awesome.

Only had one run in with a 535d on the road but I felt a bit sorry for him afterwards, I don't even have a fast car and murdered him.