E39 - headlamp condensation
E39 - headlamp condensation
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skicat

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17 posts

226 months

Monday 19th November 2007
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My E39 520 headlamp is constantly misted up, or sometimes has droplets of water inside when the weather is damp. Anyone have any experience of this? I wondered whether its a known issue, and if I need to replace the whole unit (rather not), or perhaps just a seal. I cannot see where the water might be getting in though confused

dan101smith

17,049 posts

240 months

Monday 19th November 2007
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With the E36 BMW themselves admitted that it is well within tolerance for condensation to form on the inside of the headlamp units.

It is a design "feature", and so I'd imagine that the same applies to the E39.

Kinky

39,944 posts

298 months

Monday 19th November 2007
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I've got exactly the same on the nearside headlight - but other side is OK.

K

noneedtolift

888 posts

252 months

Monday 19th November 2007
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There are two known reasons for this:

- condensation (also common on E60,e8x and E9x)
- water ingress

the latter is most oftenly due to the covers not being closed again properly (ie when changing the bulbs) or the lugs being broken on the covers (and thus the cover not sealing properly). The covers are bloody akward to get to, leave alone taking them off/ back on.
Check that your covers are on and secured properly. If it is just moisture due to condensation, a possible solution is to leave your high beams on for quite a while (with the cover being off).

skicat

Original Poster:

17 posts

226 months

Monday 19th November 2007
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Kinky said:
I've got exactly the same on the nearside headlight - but other side is OK.
That's exactly my situation. I'll try the aforementioned "main beam with the lid off" trick.

Thanks to everyone who replied. thumbup

noneedtolift

888 posts

252 months

Monday 19th November 2007
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NP!

peaktorque

1,807 posts

240 months

Saturday 24th November 2007
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I bet my headlamps are worse. They are shite. They fill with water and have got as much output as a candle. Angel eyes coming soon!

King Fisher

6 posts

226 months

Sunday 25th November 2007
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I had the same issue on both near and off-side headlights. I solved the problem by running a bead of silicone sealer along the join between the clear lens and the black plastic headlight body. I took the headlights out of the vehicle to do this - dead easy - just 4 screws and 5 minutes time. Since I did this - no condensation.


Neil.D

2,878 posts

235 months

Monday 26th November 2007
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Take off the back of the headlamp and clean the seals well with something like a babywipe as they are PH neutral. Let it dry but pop a silica gel bag in there (the sort your mrs gets in her new leather handbag or in your video camera bag or whatever) Soaks up moisture and keeps them clear, worked for me.

skicat

Original Poster:

17 posts

226 months

Sunday 2nd December 2007
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King Fisher said:
I had the same issue on both near and off-side headlights. I solved the problem by running a bead of silicone sealer along the join between the clear lens and the black plastic headlight body. I took the headlights out of the vehicle to do this - dead easy - just 4 screws and 5 minutes time. Since I did this - no condensation.
I've decided I need to do something along these lines. Trying to steam it out with the main beam on just isn't working. I looked at removing the headlamp unit earlier today - I can see the obvious 2 screws on top of the unit, but I can't find the other 2? It didn't help I was trying this in the pouring rain...

Rich Moorse

6 posts

226 months

Sunday 2nd December 2007
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You've found the two on the top of the unit - you'll find the other two at the bottom of the headlight unit, underneath the bulbs etc. Obviously, you'll need to unplug the bulbs to remove the headlight unit but it's easy enough. If you get stuck, drop me a line and I'll take some photo's and mail them to you.

skicat

Original Poster:

17 posts

226 months

Tuesday 4th December 2007
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Thanks, I'll have a go at the weekend. If the weather doesn't intervene.

dazren

22,612 posts

290 months

Tuesday 4th December 2007
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I sometimes get condensation in the headlights (during the winter months....). Use the lights for a while and it goes away.

skicat

Original Poster:

17 posts

226 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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This is more than just condensation - there are several cc's of water inside. Anyhoo, I've got it out now and its drying out on the kitchen boiler. I've got the back off (just a few clips) but can anyone tell me if its possible to separate the clear plastic from the main black structure. All the water is between this clear outer and the glass lenses. Seems worst in the indicator pod - maybe that's where its getting in. I could do with wiping the inside of the clear plastic but I don't want to force it if its not designed to come off.

Rich Moorse

6 posts

226 months

Thursday 13th December 2007
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Hi Skicat
I also had that issue. I dried things out by opening the headlight unit and then removing the two glass lenses. I then used a piece of kitchen roll and a heavy duty cable tie to guide the tissue paper between the black plastic housing and the front lens, but be careful! It's easy to get the tissue stuck! Especially in the area of the indicator where the gap is at its' smallest - make sure that you keep enough of the tissue paper accessible to pull it back out again. I also had a lot of water around the indicator area but once I'd dried things out and I'd run a bead of clear silicone sealer along the join line between the clear plastic front lens and the black plastic housing, the condensation hasn't come back - even with all of the cold damp weather we've been having lately.

peaktorque

1,807 posts

240 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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Just changed my 'fish tanks' for Hella 'angel eyes', well worth £300. The light output is far better than it ever was with my orginals, even when they were dry! Driving at night AND seeing where you are heading is a great benefit! biggrin