330 clutch going signs
Discussion
Hi,
I've had a few cars in the past where the clutch has gone and it did so pretty rapidly. It started by slipping a little all the time then a lot.
Tonight, I went out for some hard driving, finished up by a fast pull off the lights and screwed up and got a lot of slipping in first gear (my fault, foot on the clutch). I came off the power, put it into second, floored it and the clutch slipped again (not my fault this time). I let it cool down for a few miles and tried flooring it in 1st, 2nd and third and it didn't slip again.
Does this sound like the clutch starting to go or do you tyhink that the heat I generated in the clutch with my cocked start caused the slipping in second?
The reason I ask is that I'm looking to replace the car soon and if the clutch is going, would rather trade it in and let the garage replace it form their large markup at cost price. I'm guessing it would be 500-700 to replace.
I've had a few cars in the past where the clutch has gone and it did so pretty rapidly. It started by slipping a little all the time then a lot.
Tonight, I went out for some hard driving, finished up by a fast pull off the lights and screwed up and got a lot of slipping in first gear (my fault, foot on the clutch). I came off the power, put it into second, floored it and the clutch slipped again (not my fault this time). I let it cool down for a few miles and tried flooring it in 1st, 2nd and third and it didn't slip again.
Does this sound like the clutch starting to go or do you tyhink that the heat I generated in the clutch with my cocked start caused the slipping in second?
The reason I ask is that I'm looking to replace the car soon and if the clutch is going, would rather trade it in and let the garage replace it form their large markup at cost price. I'm guessing it would be 500-700 to replace.
MattOz said:
Sounds like it might be on the way out, but not actually dead. I had a clutch replaced in my 330i last year and it was just under £300. Included OE clutch kit and fitting at a local BMW specialist.
Matt
£300. Blimey. That's surprising. Is it quite a simple job on the 330 then?Matt
I don't know! I replaced mine because the biting point was at the top of its travel and the car had done 120k miles on the original! Upon inspection there was about 0.25mm before the plate hit the rivets, so it was on its way. It never slipped though.
The OE clutch is about £200, so the rest depends on the dealer and the labour charge.
Matt
The OE clutch is about £200, so the rest depends on the dealer and the labour charge.
Matt
Mate its not slipping.
I had this problem with mine, funny enough it was EXACTLY the same.
I went to impress a friend of mine when I first got my 330ci, took off in 1st hoping
to spin it up (had taken the traction off by just pressing the button).......
Revved it up, dumped it and it "seemed" that clutch had slipped, there was no wheel spin at all.
then it happend when I put it into 2nd.
Put the traction back on and had a moan that it was buggered and might need a new clutch by the smell
of it!!!
Week goes by, tried it again.......was pizzing down with rain, was by myself, so took it off again,
same happed even in the wet it wouldnt do shit, people on the 46fanatics forum were suggesting all sorts till
a nice young lady suggest maybe that the traction control wasnt "FULLY OFF".....
1.
Well when you "CAIN" the car in 1st and 2nd gear, with the traction on then it hinders wheel spin, some of this hindering can take place in the clutch (dont ask me why or how)
2.
Now you press your DSC or whatever it is and you get your little warning light to say your traction is off.............well suprise suprise ........its not....not all the way, its still gonna stop you in the same way as above, only part of it is off, and you clutch will still burn like a goodun.
3.
Press the traction control button in........HOLD IT FOR 3-5 SECONDS.......you get the normal warning triangle but you also get an orange (!) sign....its the same light that lighs up red for your handbrake.
This is everything off.
Now when I take this off its just spools up, smokes to death, I used it once then thought I'd like to save some rubber.
Its fun on wet days, you can get th back out and play about on quiet roads with no help from the traction what so ever and funny enough no clutch slip.
Its not your clutch mate.....its your traction fighting your loon right foot!!!!
I had this problem with mine, funny enough it was EXACTLY the same.
I went to impress a friend of mine when I first got my 330ci, took off in 1st hoping
to spin it up (had taken the traction off by just pressing the button).......
Revved it up, dumped it and it "seemed" that clutch had slipped, there was no wheel spin at all.
then it happend when I put it into 2nd.
Put the traction back on and had a moan that it was buggered and might need a new clutch by the smell
of it!!!
Week goes by, tried it again.......was pizzing down with rain, was by myself, so took it off again,
same happed even in the wet it wouldnt do shit, people on the 46fanatics forum were suggesting all sorts till
a nice young lady suggest maybe that the traction control wasnt "FULLY OFF".....
1.
Well when you "CAIN" the car in 1st and 2nd gear, with the traction on then it hinders wheel spin, some of this hindering can take place in the clutch (dont ask me why or how)
2.
Now you press your DSC or whatever it is and you get your little warning light to say your traction is off.............well suprise suprise ........its not....not all the way, its still gonna stop you in the same way as above, only part of it is off, and you clutch will still burn like a goodun.
3.
Press the traction control button in........HOLD IT FOR 3-5 SECONDS.......you get the normal warning triangle but you also get an orange (!) sign....its the same light that lighs up red for your handbrake.
This is everything off.
Now when I take this off its just spools up, smokes to death, I used it once then thought I'd like to save some rubber.
Its fun on wet days, you can get th back out and play about on quiet roads with no help from the traction what so ever and funny enough no clutch slip.
Its not your clutch mate.....its your traction fighting your loon right foot!!!!
another thing that may contribute to your problem is a little gem called a clutch delay valve (cdv) BMW Inserted cdv's into yhe hydraulic line just before the slave cylinder, as the name suggests it delays the return of the fluid when you let of the clutch, I guess its to stop people dumping the clutch and breaking driveline componants. its pretty easy to remove and sharpens up the clutch response.
Graham
Graham
Or you may have created so much heat in the clutch that the faces are glazed. This can happen with the puny clutch in my M5. Drive it gently for a few days and see if the slipping returns.
Do you know if your traction control retards the engine as well as applies the brakes?
The reason I ask is if only the brakes are applied and the engine still going full bore the excess power with the brakes on may be causing your clutch to slip.
Do you know if your traction control retards the engine as well as applies the brakes?
The reason I ask is if only the brakes are applied and the engine still going full bore the excess power with the brakes on may be causing your clutch to slip.
Neil.D said:
Or you may have created so much heat in the clutch that the faces are glazed. This can happen with the puny clutch in my M5. Drive it gently for a few days and see if the slipping returns.
Do you know if your traction control retards the engine as well as applies the brakes?
The reason I ask is if only the brakes are applied and the engine still going full bore the excess power with the brakes on may be causing your clutch to slip.
I havenh't had any more problesm, so presume I had just cooked the clutch after a very enthusiastic thrashing. The traction control does cut the power.Do you know if your traction control retards the engine as well as applies the brakes?
The reason I ask is if only the brakes are applied and the engine still going full bore the excess power with the brakes on may be causing your clutch to slip.
Stunning M5 by the way, I just checked out your photo!
CIS121 said:
Neil.D said:
Or you may have created so much heat in the clutch that the faces are glazed. This can happen with the puny clutch in my M5. Drive it gently for a few days and see if the slipping returns.
Do you know if your traction control retards the engine as well as applies the brakes?
The reason I ask is if only the brakes are applied and the engine still going full bore the excess power with the brakes on may be causing your clutch to slip.
I havenh't had any more problesm, so presume I had just cooked the clutch after a very enthusiastic thrashing. The traction control does cut the power.Do you know if your traction control retards the engine as well as applies the brakes?
The reason I ask is if only the brakes are applied and the engine still going full bore the excess power with the brakes on may be causing your clutch to slip.
Stunning M5 by the way, I just checked out your photo!
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