340D/540D

[Beemer-5]

Mooted to arrive in 2009, with a V8 4.0, producing 320 bhp and 500 lbs-ft.
This sounds good.

[Beemer-5]

Then, M3s WILL have to watch out for nicely-mapped versions, all over their exhaust pipes!

[clonmult]

Not much more power than the 335D though, but imagine what DMS could do when they get their hands on it.

Would they be able to get it up to the 100bhp per liter of the other BMW diesels?

Then we'll have plenty of discussions comparing the performance of a 340D to an M3 V8

[Beemer-5]

Aye, 38 bhp and 72 lbs-ft up on the 335d, but i reckon the V8 layout will prove to be an even better engine than the already-brilliant 335d!
The engine has 400 lbs-ft from 1750 rpm, apparently!!!

Yes, a DMS tweak might well see 400 bhp and 575 lbs-ft.
Now that WOULD make for a quick 3-series!

[Slurms]

Anyone know more about the engine is it a V8 Twin Turbo?

[Welshbeef]

Can anyone shed any light as to what the power & torque at idle are for the following BMW's (all current models):-

318d
320d
325d
330d
335d
and the forthcoming
340d (or 540d).

Also peak torque & peak power would be good & finally the idea being that we can then state that at idle this car produces x% of its peak torque - this clearly will show up the single turbo models but highlight that even though they rev to around 4-4.5k if torque doesnt really arrive until around 2k then the usable rev range is short but f its say 70% of peak at idle then thats a whopping 4-4.5k rev range!

[Welshbeef]

Another point if the competition were targetting the 335d outputs BMW have yet again moved the game on so when thy finally do get close the bar has risen yet again.

It really is clear that BMW are the master engine builders and always want first mover advantage.

[pgilc1]

Mercedes already have a E420CDI pretty much everywhere else but here. I guess it was only a matter of time before BMW followed suit

[the_g_ster]

In the shorter term I am waiting on the 123d 204bhp unit going into the 3 coupe/convertible. For those of us on a budget that will be a golden combination.

Anybody know anything?

[pgilc1]

the_g_ster said:

In the shorter term I am waiting on the 123d 204bhp unit going into the 3 coupe/convertible. For those of us on a budget that will be a golden combination.

Anybody know anything?

I'd imagine it will happen with the 3 series face lift scheduled for late this year. Interestingly that new unit is putting out as much BHP as quite recent versions of the 3.0d engine.

I had a 535d and now have an x5. I might go back to a 5 series (probably when the new e60 replacement happens in 09/10) but it will be the 523d (i'm assuming it happens) that i will be looking for. That engines combo of power & economy will be so hard to walk past.

[dxb335d]

Suppose i will have to chop in the 335d for a 340d, altho the name does not sound as sporty.

[the_g_ster]

Though these monster oil burners will be savage mile crushers, I don't imagine they will sell by the bucket load.

That engine will appeal to some who don't want to go the full hog to an M3 and obviously want some scope to get a 3rd party to chip it to something silly, whilst saving on insurance and having a stealth machine.

As already pointed out though, the new units are already causing a stir, as the 123d puts out as much as a 3.0d, so it is risking pushing the line up of engines up a gear. The existing 177bhp unit will be redundant, and the petrols are kinda pointless below 3 litre. The 170 unit is gutless and old dears will be overtaking you in their Yaris's and Fabia's. The X25 unit is okay in the one series, but in the 3 upwards weight takes over. Should this mean that we should expect power hikes in the other diesel units too?

To me it suggests that BMW would be better focusing the line up on good diesels and higher end petrols as demand is really going to drop off for the lesser petrols unless some serious re-invention goes on.

Mercedes ought to watch out too, as they are already way behind.

[dxb335d]

I think the 335d is out-selling the 335i in the UK.

[edb49]

Where's this info come from? Reliable source? Seems odd considering all the other BMW diesels have lots of variants.

E.G.
318d/320d/123d = same block/head
325d/330d/335d = same block/head

(please correct if I'm wrong)

[GT Chipper]

dxb335d said:

Suppose i will have to chop in the 335d for a 340d, altho the name does not sound as sporty.

I thought it was your dad's car Carlos

[Methane Bloke]

edb49 said:

Where's this info come from? Reliable source? Seems odd considering all the other BMW diesels have lots of variants.

E.G.
318d/320d/123d = same block/head
325d/330d/335d = same block/head

(please correct if I'm wrong)

The 4.4 litre diesel V8 is already available in the 745d in Europe with 330BHP and 750Nm. The earlier V8 was 4.0 litre but had a cast iron block. Rumour has it that a 5.0 litre diesel is under development.

Regards

Chris

[edb49]

Cool. Well, with 4 swept litres I'm expecting 400bhp from a FI oil burner.

4.4 liters, 440bhp. Call it 500bhp chipped?

[dxb335d]

GT Chipper said:

dxb335d said:

Suppose i will have to chop in the 335d for a 340d, altho the name does not sound as sporty.

I thought it was your dad's car Carlos

Hi there, you must know me from some place else. No im afraid its no longer my fathers, been im my possession for 3 months now, but as im sure your aware ive been using the car as my own from brand new anyhow. But now its official

[SagaLout]

Beemer-5 said:

Mooted to arrive in 2009, with a V8 4.0, producing 320 bhp and 500 lbs-ft.
This sounds good.

Only 320bhp?
You get more than 320bhp with a remap on a 335D.

[Welshbeef]

SagaLout said:

Beemer-5 said:

Mooted to arrive in 2009, with a V8 4.0, producing 320 bhp and 500 lbs-ft.
This sounds good.

Only 320bhp?
You get more than 320bhp with a remap on a 335D.

Yes but that doesnt have a Full BMW warranty & its only a small % of people who would modify their cars in that manner & of course anyone running a comp car will not be permitted and if they did could lose their job over it.