E30 318iS
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chippy17

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Tuesday 1st July 2008
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just about to take possesion of one of these great little cars but had a couple of questions:

does the engine have a chain or a belt? If chain does this need changing and when?

the car I am buying has 73k on the clock...

thanks

Otter's pocket

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Tuesday 1st July 2008
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chain


RodentRacing

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Tuesday 1st July 2008
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The chain doesn't need changing unless it gets very noisey. Even then it's probably just the tensioner. A fairly cheap repair. Listen out for a rattly sound at 2800-3000rpm. That said mine's been noisey since I had it. Done 25 thousand miles and now up to 152k and its fine :touchwood: They seem to like being thrashed (you have to to go quickly in an iS).

Get over to e30zone. Plenty of knowledge over there once you work out who knows what they're talking about. Just be prepared for any iS thread to turn into a 4 pot vs 6 pot debate.

This is also a handy resource http://www.esatclear.ie/~bpurcell/

chippy17

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Tuesday 1st July 2008
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thanks

so a duplex chain like an M3?

RodentRacing

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Tuesday 1st July 2008
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I believe so yes

At 73k yours is barely run in biggrin What condition is the rest of it in and any tasty options?

chippy17

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Tuesday 1st July 2008
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RodentRacing said:
The chain doesn't need changing unless it gets very noisey. Even then it's probably just the tensioner. A fairly cheap repair. Listen out for a rattly sound at 2800-3000rpm. That said mine's been noisey since I had it. Done 25 thousand miles and now up to 152k and its fine :touchwood: They seem to like being thrashed (you have to to go quickly in an iS).

Get over to e30zone. Plenty of knowledge over there once you work out who knows what they're talking about. Just be prepared for any iS thread to turn into a 4 pot vs 6 pot debate.

This is also a handy resource http://www.esatclear.ie/~bpurcell/
thanks yes have been to both sites just knew I would get quick answer on here! Had an E30 M3 for 4 years and have missed it since I sold it but cannot afford another at present so thought this might partially fill E30 hole, love all E30s

...yes there is no substitute for the 325 but I have always prefered the handling of the smaller engines E30s...

that sort of thing?

chippy17

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RodentRacing said:
I believe so yes

At 73k yours is barely run in biggrin What condition is the rest of it in and any tasty options?
bit of a find actually and unintentional, colleague emigrated and needed to sell quick, 2 owners from new, I think he bought it at approx 3 years old! Totally original, I would not say it is show car condition but not far off.

Even has the little things; still sealed first aid kit, torch etc, oh and to top it off it's white!!!

Should be with me this week, I am getting quite excited, feel naked without some sort of older/classicy BMW in garage

eta no tasty options that I can think of except leccy windows! Pretty basic I think, does not even have fog lights, does have manual sunroof...I am happy with that sort of suits the car IMO

Edited by chippy17 on Tuesday 1st July 12:17

RodentRacing

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chippy17 said:
thanks yes have been to both sites just knew I would get quick answer on here! Had an E30 M3 for 4 years and have missed it since I sold it but cannot afford another at present so thought this might partially fill E30 hole, love all E30s

...yes there is no substitute for the 325 but I have always prefered the handling of the smaller engines E30s...

that sort of thing?
Not driven an M3 but I doubt the iS will come close sorry. They are great little things though. Don't plan to sell mine.

And yes thats the sort of debate: 325s are understeery with the boat anchor up front; 318s are slow and sound rubbish, ad infinitum.

chippy17

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Tuesday 1st July 2008
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RodentRacing said:
chippy17 said:
thanks yes have been to both sites just knew I would get quick answer on here! Had an E30 M3 for 4 years and have missed it since I sold it but cannot afford another at present so thought this might partially fill E30 hole, love all E30s

...yes there is no substitute for the 325 but I have always prefered the handling of the smaller engines E30s...

that sort of thing?
Not driven an M3 but I doubt the iS will come close sorry. They are great little things though. Don't plan to sell mine.

And yes thats the sort of debate: 325s are understeery with the boat anchor up front; 318s are slow and sound rubbish, ad infinitum.
of course am under no pretence that one can compare the two (if you like your E30s blag a drive well worth it) but I think I will enjoy driving it nevertheless just fancy something that you do not have to be doing a gazillion miles an hour in to gain driving satisfaction, I am hoping like the M3 this will provide some...

RodentRacing

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Tuesday 1st July 2008
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chippy17 said:

bit of a find actually and unintentional, colleague emigrated and needed to sell quick, 2 owners from new, I think he bought it at approx 3 years old! Totally original, I would not say it is show car condition but not far off.

Even has the little things; still sealed first aid kit, torch etc, oh and to top it off it's white!!!

Should be with me this week, I am getting quite excited, feel naked without some sort of older/classicy BMW in garage

eta no tasty options that I can think of except leccy windows! Pretty basic I think, does not even have fog lights, does have manual sunroof...I am happy with that sort of suits the car IMO
Sounds like a good un. Not many had leccy sun roofs. The manual one works fine and gives your left arm a work out smile White is good too. Doesn't fade to pink like a red one paperbag

RodentRacing

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Tuesday 1st July 2008
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chippy17 said:
but I think I will enjoy driving it nevertheless just fancy something that you do not have to be doing a gazillion miles an hour in to gain driving satisfaction, I am hoping like the M3 this will provide some...
The iS will definately do the job. It handles fabulously. I find it rewards being smooth in the quick stuff and a bit more aggressive in lower speed bends. The engine doesn't have that much but is eggs you on and you'll end up revving and revving it. As with any e30 the pedals are ideally positioned, heel toe comes naturally. The brake pedal is a bit soft because of the master cylinder being on the other side of the car (connected with a long bar). Other downsides are the less than feelsome steering and slightly long throwed gearchange. (Both correctable with later parts though). The brakes are good for an 18 year old car. What size wheels does yours have? I started on 14s but moved up to 15s and it made quite a difference.

chippy17

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Tuesday 1st July 2008
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RodentRacing said:
chippy17 said:
but I think I will enjoy driving it nevertheless just fancy something that you do not have to be doing a gazillion miles an hour in to gain driving satisfaction, I am hoping like the M3 this will provide some...
The iS will definately do the job. It handles fabulously. I find it rewards being smooth in the quick stuff and a bit more aggressive in lower speed bends. The engine doesn't have that much but is eggs you on and you'll end up revving and revving it. As with any e30 the pedals are ideally positioned, heel toe comes naturally. The brake pedal is a bit soft because of the master cylinder being on the other side of the car (connected with a long bar). Other downsides are the less than feelsome steering and slightly long throwed gearchange. (Both correctable with later parts though). The brakes are good for an 18 year old car. What size wheels does yours have? I started on 14s but moved up to 15s and it made quite a difference.
re wheels I don't know, never thought about it tbh, will find out in a couple of days though! I expect they will be 14s as the car is not well specced.

Stop now, I am getting the urge to tinker!!! Must resist, must leave standard!

But if I were to tinker, how do you make the steering and gear change better?! Anything you can do to the brakes or are they fine as they are?!wink

RodentRacing

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Tuesday 1st July 2008
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chippy17 said:
Stop now, I am getting the urge to tinker!!! Must resist, must leave standard!

But if I were to tinker, how do you make the steering and gear change better?! Anything you can do to the brakes or are they fine as they are?!wink
hehe That's what I said when I got mine. Steering can be improved but fitting a rack from an E36. (I think Z3 ones work too and I've heard of someone using an E46 one) You need to modify things a bit. All explained in this handy guide. http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name=tech&p...

Gear change benefits from Z3 parts. http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name=tech&p...

Brake wise you really can spend as much as you want. Search the zone forums and you'll find loads of people that have uprated theirs. You'd probably need to go up to 16s or 17s though. My brakes are new but still standard apart from Pagid pads. It does pull up pretty well it's just the soft pedal (at the top of its range anyway) doesn't inspire confidence. Not much you can do about this short of relocating the master cylinder. They will fade if you drive it hard but it takes some effort. If I get a clear run up and down the Cat and Fiddle they'll sometimes start to lose a bit very near the end.

chippy17

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Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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RodentRacing said:
chippy17 said:
Stop now, I am getting the urge to tinker!!! Must resist, must leave standard!

But if I were to tinker, how do you make the steering and gear change better?! Anything you can do to the brakes or are they fine as they are?!wink
hehe That's what I said when I got mine. Steering can be improved but fitting a rack from an E36. (I think Z3 ones work too and I've heard of someone using an E46 one) You need to modify things a bit. All explained in this handy guide. http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name=tech&p...

Gear change benefits from Z3 parts. http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name=tech&p...

Brake wise you really can spend as much as you want. Search the zone forums and you'll find loads of people that have uprated theirs. You'd probably need to go up to 16s or 17s though. My brakes are new but still standard apart from Pagid pads. It does pull up pretty well it's just the soft pedal (at the top of its range anyway) doesn't inspire confidence. Not much you can do about this short of relocating the master cylinder. They will fade if you drive it hard but it takes some effort. If I get a clear run up and down the Cat and Fiddle they'll sometimes start to lose a bit very near the end.
too tempting and thanks for the info, have you tried braided hoses for the brakes, might help the fade a bit?

RodentRacing

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Friday 4th July 2008
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Not got braided hoses yet. They're on the to do list but quite far down it smile.

chippy17

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Wednesday 9th July 2008
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RodentRacing said:
Not got braided hoses yet. They're on the to do list but quite far down it smile.
well my new toy has arrived, woohoo! All the way from Spain on a tansporter so it is a tad dirty! But still lovely and original. I am going to take some before and after cleaning pictures, I will post them when done, for anyone who is interested

only bummer is they have ripped the front lip spoiler off at some point and as I was not here when it arrived no one noticed!!!! Annoyed and of course they are denying it!!

Ciaran

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231 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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Really miss my old E30 318iS - lovely car! Health to enjoy it.

chippy17

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Ciaran said:
Really miss my old E30 318iS - lovely car! Health to enjoy it.
have not driven it much as MOT has no run out, but from limited experience I think it will be a fun if not hugely fast car. Everything is so tight, it defintiely has a baby M3 feel to it.

RodentRacing

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Wednesday 9th July 2008
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You got it brought all the way from Spain!? Bloody hell. I actually met another bloke who bought a Spanish one. Bumped into him at the last service station before France. He was on his way home to Bulgaria. Car was a bit ropey and had a surfboard wing on the back. Just about visible in this pic


We were in the V6 75 cloud9

buffly

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231 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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I`ve got one of these babies....

All i did to mine was to stiffen the suspension with Apex struts and springs, and fit a limited slip diff....

Now every time it rains, i`m out playing in the car!

One of the best handling BMW`s ever, and i`ve had a few....