1-Series Brake failure - twice!

1-Series Brake failure - twice!

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Ranger 6

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7,069 posts

250 months

Friday 31st October 2008
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My car has just experienced brake failure for the second time. It's now been recovered to the local dealer to my office.

Has anyone experienced anything similar? There's one instance on BMWland where the guys wife ended up crashing into a field to avoid the car in front.

My symptoms were akin to a complete servo failure - rock hard brake pedal and no retardation at all. The first time it was a matter of seconds, this morning it was for longer and I had to stop the car using the gears and handbrake. More by luck than skillful driving I would add, two green lights on a Motorway roundabout and a run to a layby meant I could stop in relative safety. If the lights had gone red or someone stopped I would be telling you about the acciudent as well.

I've told the garage and BMW Recovery people that I don't want the car back until they find the fault. If anyone tells me they can't find anything and I should just try it then they'll be wearing a 130....mad

Ranger 6

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7,069 posts

250 months

Friday 31st October 2008
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Update: According to the technical experts (as the dealer techies had never come across this) there's a pipe with a valve - part of the servo system - that they are going to replace.

Further update on monday when the part arrives

VerySideways

10,240 posts

273 months

Friday 31st October 2008
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Close call eh?

Catherine197

9,586 posts

244 months

Friday 31st October 2008
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Not a BMW, but we a few months ago had similar symptoms with our 197. Brake pedal seamed to go hard but the car always stopped.

The dealer said it needed a replacement pipe.

Ranger 6

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7,069 posts

250 months

Monday 3rd November 2008
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VerySideways said:
Close call eh?
fk yes! Extremely close!!eek

Ranger 6

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7,069 posts

250 months

Monday 3rd November 2008
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Further update: Pipe and valve now fitted. I've discussed with the dealer that I'm not happy with the fact they couldn't find a specific fault. The fella is going to run the car tonight as an extended road test and send it back tomorrow.

Ranger 6

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7,069 posts

250 months

Monday 3rd November 2008
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That's interesting, at least BMW have admitted they know of similar issues. What get's me is why there hasn't been any form of recall or tech bulletin?

elwe

192 posts

221 months

Monday 3rd November 2008
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If the brake peddle was totally solid and there was no braking going on at all I would suspect the ABS unit, not the servo.

If the servo goes you can still brake but the peddle is much harder.

If the ABS unit goes bonkers it can switch the valves so that the brake master cylinder is not connected to the calipers. It should never do this and there is a second watch dog controller looking out for problems which can cut power to the valves and return them to a safe state. It could be sticky valves or a bug in the primary ABS controller and the secondary.

pikey

7,701 posts

285 months

Monday 3rd November 2008
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I had just this on a brand new Cherokee once.

After the 4th time (in 5 months), and the garage couldn't find anything wrong, I gave it back.

A few months later, there was a recall on them... I was pretty pissed off the garage could only plug the computer in rather than actually try and find the fault.

deviant

4,316 posts

211 months

Tuesday 4th November 2008
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Jeez there is no way I would have any confidence in the car even if they had claimed to fix it!!!