One series tyres

[Apache]

Does anyone else feel these to be a bit 'skittish' in the wet? I feel the handling is comprimised by poor grip

[wobert]

What make of tyres are you running?

I've had Michelin Zero Pressure RFs on mine since new, and have found them to be by far the "best" RF tyres (based on 75k miles done in MINIs also fitted with RF tyres)

[kentmotorcompany]

My wifes 118d M Sport came with Pirelli RF's and only lasted 14,000 miles, we changed to Bridgestones which are lasting much longer.

Grip on both tyres seems fine, wet or dry.

[Apache]

What it came with, Bridgestone Turanzas

[wobert]

Apache said:

What it came with, Bridgestone Turanzas

Are they the RE050s?

I've found the 1er to be sensitive to tyre pressures, what are you running F/R?

I normally run mine 2-3 psi higher than that stated on the chart inside the drivers door closure, manily because most of my driving is at higher speed.

[Apache]

wobert said:

Apache said:

What it came with, Bridgestone Turanzas

Are they the RE050s?

I've found the 1er to be sensitive to tyre pressures, what are you running F/R?

I normally run mine 2-3 psi higher than that stated on the chart inside the drivers door closure, manily because most of my driving is at higher speed.

Good point, I'll check the pressures tonight, don't know what type of Turanza they are but they aint great. Done about 5000k in em now and although it's been permanently freezing they should be 'conditioned' by now

[Sticks2]

Apache said:

Does anyone else feel these to be a bit 'skittish' in the wet? I feel the handling is comprimised by poor grip

Not a bit - extremely. Borderline dangerous imo (17" Euforias). Changing to Sportcontact2s made a lot of difference, but I still didn't keep it.

[wobert]

Sticks2 said:

Apache said:

Does anyone else feel these to be a bit 'skittish' in the wet? I feel the handling is comprimised by poor grip

Not a bit - extremely. Borderline dangerous imo (17" Euforias). Changing to Sportcontact2s made a lot of difference, but I still didn't keep it.

In MINI circles, the Pirellis are unversally regarded as c*ap as well!

The second generation RFs, Michelins, Bridgestones etc act more like conventional tyres.

[VerySideways]

Ditch the runflats and you'll be amazed at the difference...

[LocoBlade]

I'll be getting rid of the runflats on my 123d later this week, going for Falken 452s which only work out at around £70-80 a corner even for 18" tyres.

To be fair though the RE050s Ive got on mine don't actually seem that bad so far (albeit having only owned the car since Saturday), they seem to tramline occasionally when they catch a rut in the road and they're not very predictable on the limit, but I certainly wouldnt label them anywhere near dangerous so if you need to stick to runflats then they might be the ones to go for.

Edited by LocoBlade on Monday 19th January 18:36

[Sticks2]

Sorry to repeat myself but if you can, keep the rfts you take off somewhere because when I came to trade mine in without rfts at a BMW stealer, they knocked £700 off trade in value - the cost to them of putting rfts back on.

[LocoBlade]

Personally I plan on keeping the car quite a while and I'm unlikely to trade it in to a main dealer, so storing a set of tyres for 3-5 years is too much hassle. If you sell it with the mobility kit then there shouldnt be an issue anyway.

[VerySideways]

Remember also that tyres have a shelf life...

[Methane Bloke]

Mine came with Bridgestones, lasted to 24K, I wasn't terribly impressed with their grip levels though. I'm now running Michelin Pilot Primacys and they are much better in all respects, grip, ride and wear. Mileage now 41K. Got a result at £90 a corner as well.

[Apache]

Company car so I think I have to fit what they say...

[Invisible man]

VerySideways said:

Ditch the runflats and you'll be amazed at the difference...

Without changing the wheels this is impossible....all i can do is change the brand, Michelin sound favourable

[VerySideways]

Invisible man said:

VerySideways said:

Ditch the runflats and you'll be amazed at the difference...

Without changing the wheels this is impossible....all i can do is change the brand, Michelin sound favourable

Incorrect.

You can fit normal tyres to runflat wheels, you can not fit runflat tyres to normal wheels.

(And if you are going to stick with runflats then the Bridgestones are the favoured choice)

[Invisible man]

VerySideways said:

Invisible man said:

VerySideways said:

Ditch the runflats and you'll be amazed at the difference...

Without changing the wheels this is impossible....all i can do is change the brand, Michelin sound favourable

Incorrect.

You can fit normal tyres to runflat wheels, you can not fit runflat tyres to normal wheels.

(And if you are going to stick with runflats then the Bridgestones are the favoured choice)

Possible but not recommended by BMW and not seen as an option by Fleet

[VerySideways]

Invisible man said:

VerySideways said:

Invisible man said:

VerySideways said:

Ditch the runflats and you'll be amazed at the difference...

Without changing the wheels this is impossible....all i can do is change the brand, Michelin sound favourable

Incorrect. You can fit normal tyres to runflat wheels, you can not fit runflat tyres to normal wheels.

Possible but not recommended by BMW and not seen as an option by Fleet

Errr, BMW have no problem with it at all, several people have asked.
I don't know who "Fleet" are but perhaps they've been ill advised?

[Invisible man]

VerySideways said:

Invisible man said:

VerySideways said:

Invisible man said:

VerySideways said:

Ditch the runflats and you'll be amazed at the difference...

Without changing the wheels this is impossible....all i can do is change the brand, Michelin sound favourable

Incorrect. You can fit normal tyres to runflat wheels, you can not fit runflat tyres to normal wheels.

Possible but not recommended by BMW and not seen as an option by Fleet

Errr, BMW have no problem with it at all, several people have asked.
I don't know who "Fleet" are but perhaps they've been ill advised?

In my case, Elms Servicing Dept in Cambridge to be precise, by Fleet I mean the Company Operator. Don't get me wrong, I'd change em in a jiffy.....are you anything to do with BMW?