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Has anyone had problems with the exhaust manifold in a 530D E60 or E61. i've just had a new one fitted (£640). My car is out of warranty but only 63000 miles. BMW offered 40% off the part price on condition that I did not get the part back. I refused this because had been told by two BMW technicians including the one at our local dealership that they had changed loads of manifolds.
When I checkedthe old one, it has at least 6 cracks in the metal, some of them 75mm long. these are along the press marks where the parts have been formed. They are clearly down to manufacturing/design faults. It aint good to have raw exhaust straight from the head blasting around the engine bay. BMW dont seem to realise that exhaust fumes and fire can kill you because they are in denial about the problem. I have some pics if anyone is interested. BMW don't seem to be!!
Alex
When I checkedthe old one, it has at least 6 cracks in the metal, some of them 75mm long. these are along the press marks where the parts have been formed. They are clearly down to manufacturing/design faults. It aint good to have raw exhaust straight from the head blasting around the engine bay. BMW dont seem to realise that exhaust fumes and fire can kill you because they are in denial about the problem. I have some pics if anyone is interested. BMW don't seem to be!!
Alex
I have the same issue 5 yr old 530d . The cabin stinks, if its a known fault then bmw have to sort it even out of warranty ?
Has any one had any luck ? My local indie quoted £600
But surely i have more leverage with bmw if they will compromise.
I havent got 600 but cant drive my kids in the car anymore it must be dangerous
Who has had success wuth a dealer i'm in the south west england
Has any one had any luck ? My local indie quoted £600
But surely i have more leverage with bmw if they will compromise.
I havent got 600 but cant drive my kids in the car anymore it must be dangerous
Who has had success wuth a dealer i'm in the south west england
Hi there
With any manufacturer like this and the complexity of cars, no one manufacturer can get things 100% right all the time and for the life of the car. As 'yet' this isn't a known fault as if it was, the forums would be chock full of the hundreds of thousands E60/1 Diesel owners around the world reporting the same. That 'may' of course change, perhaps it'll turn out a certain batch were less well made etc?
For the moment though, you do have to be a little careful in immediately pointing the finger at BMW and proclaiming it's their fault. You don't know that as yet, so back to basic rights, the company, BMW in this case don't have to pay up rightaway. For that to happen I think you'd have to prove that the company was at fault and knew about it etc, get independant tests, analysis and reports done that would be admissable in court during any legal proceedings you may want to bring about. As it stands right now, it's entirely possible that the car hasn't been operated correctly - normal working temperatures haven't been reached and the car shut off again which has caused seemingly premature failure? Any goodwill gesture here to have the manifold changed out of warranty would be a good way to go forward. Guess it depends on how strongly you feel about the issue. If indeed, there's thousands of reports coming in the next few months about 5 or so year old E60/1's and failing exhaust manifolds, you'd have a better chance of getting the car recalled and fixed for free.
Another option could be to speak to quality aftermarket tuners and manufacturers to see if you could get a stronger stainless steel manifold made?, probably would be more expensive, but also would be guaranteed for life. Also the next option would be to find a breaker car and see if the manifold on it is good and take that to fit onto your car.
Cheers, Dennis!
With any manufacturer like this and the complexity of cars, no one manufacturer can get things 100% right all the time and for the life of the car. As 'yet' this isn't a known fault as if it was, the forums would be chock full of the hundreds of thousands E60/1 Diesel owners around the world reporting the same. That 'may' of course change, perhaps it'll turn out a certain batch were less well made etc?
For the moment though, you do have to be a little careful in immediately pointing the finger at BMW and proclaiming it's their fault. You don't know that as yet, so back to basic rights, the company, BMW in this case don't have to pay up rightaway. For that to happen I think you'd have to prove that the company was at fault and knew about it etc, get independant tests, analysis and reports done that would be admissable in court during any legal proceedings you may want to bring about. As it stands right now, it's entirely possible that the car hasn't been operated correctly - normal working temperatures haven't been reached and the car shut off again which has caused seemingly premature failure? Any goodwill gesture here to have the manifold changed out of warranty would be a good way to go forward. Guess it depends on how strongly you feel about the issue. If indeed, there's thousands of reports coming in the next few months about 5 or so year old E60/1's and failing exhaust manifolds, you'd have a better chance of getting the car recalled and fixed for free.
Another option could be to speak to quality aftermarket tuners and manufacturers to see if you could get a stronger stainless steel manifold made?, probably would be more expensive, but also would be guaranteed for life. Also the next option would be to find a breaker car and see if the manifold on it is good and take that to fit onto your car.
Cheers, Dennis!
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