335d Opinions
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martin vr6

Original Poster:

3,883 posts

231 months

Friday 18th September 2009
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Basically looking for other users opinions, after a HUGE carry on with a faulty Audi A3 Sline TDi i eventually got a refund and went looking for a 330d Touring in Msport guise and a 335d popped up at decent money, having driven both auto and manual 330d i wasnt "that" bothered about what transmission it came in as long as it was a touring

So i have came from an E46 M3 to the A3 which was a MASSIVE disappointment in both driving and performance stakes, any ideas on how i am going to find the 335d?


CaptainSlowCoach

40 posts

231 months

Friday 18th September 2009
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I came from a E46 M3 18 months ago to a 335d MSport Touring. Certainly a hell of a lot cheaper to run! Its no M3 but is real world quick - the torque is addictive... Get between 33 and 40 mpg. Flappy Paddles only get occasional use now. Sat nav is pretty hopeless. Extra space is useful - but it isnt huge. Ride is quite crashy - but thats just the run flats I guess.

Over all - pretty happy with it - it just swallows long distances.

Would I buy 1 now - would probably go for a 330d with a manual box.

Do miss the M3 engine though!

R

335Diesel

120 posts

206 months

Friday 18th September 2009
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I got a 335d Touring six weeks ago and absolutely love it - it just does everything and does it well without costing silly money. Get one.

Steve748

8,542 posts

214 months

Friday 18th September 2009
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I really enjoy driving the coupe (especially after I junked the runflats and the ride is now so much better on 19") as the torque is so addictive. Around 36 to 38 mpg with some fairly spirited driving at times and around 80ish on the motorways.
Satnav is crap (and it's the professional) so I use my bike Garmin as a back-up as well.
It only has 5 character postcode search cos those thick Germans didn't think of looking past their own country.
The standard sound system is crap and can easily be upgraded with the Alpine upgrade kit and it's well worth it.



Beardy10

25,418 posts

205 months

Saturday 19th September 2009
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I would think long and hard before buying a manual unless you are getting a fantastic deal on it.....it'll be bloody hard to sell on.

Agree completely on the RFT's....they're shocking.

I haven't driven a 335d but I have had a 535d and currently have an X5 SD....it's an amazing engine and even in the 535d was very quick. Bar the obvious M///c cars and a few others like the 135i I don't know why anyone buys a petrol engined BMW. Diesels produce the power where you need it.....they just suit everyday driving so well.

phumy

5,828 posts

267 months

Saturday 19th September 2009
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Beardy10 said:
I would think long and hard before buying a manual unless you are getting a fantastic deal on it.....it'll be bloody hard to sell on.

Agree completely on the RFT's....they're shocking.

I haven't driven a 335d but I have had a 535d and currently have an X5 SD....it's an amazing engine and even in the 535d was very quick. Bar the obvious M///c cars and a few others like the 135i I don't know why anyone buys a petrol engined BMW. Diesels produce the power where you need it.....they just suit everyday driving so well.
You wont find a 335d with a manual gear box so do even try looking for one, they only do them in auto, due to the amout of torque produced.

335Diesel

120 posts

206 months

Saturday 19th September 2009
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Yep you need to go 330d for a manual and even then they are VERY rare. Or 335i.
335d is auto (with paddles) only but it's a very good 'box.

Rumours are that the manual can't handle the torque (428lbs/ft) but that's only the BMW manual. Obviously there are plentu of manuals around that CAN handle that sort of torque.

Anyway it's a fine car whatever shape you get.

Coupe E92- for chest wig users
Saloon E90- just a bit too much like a Mitsi Carisma
Convertible E93 - a bit gay and very heavy
Touring E91 - dead sutble and cool...

martin vr6

Original Poster:

3,883 posts

231 months

Saturday 19th September 2009
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I never worded the OP correctly with regards to the transmission I knew the 335d was auto only and hence why I wasn't bothered either way

Anyway I picked up a 335d M Sport touring in Black this morning and so far i'm very impressed, only 14000 miles from new on a 56 plate, lowest mileage example I found below my initial 25k budget

JNW1

9,502 posts

224 months

Saturday 19th September 2009
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CaptainSlowCoach said:
I came from a E46 M3 18 months ago to a 335d MSport Touring. Certainly a hell of a lot cheaper to run! Its no M3 but is real world quick - the torque is addictive... Get between 33 and 40 mpg. Flappy Paddles only get occasional use now. Sat nav is pretty hopeless. Extra space is useful - but it isnt huge. Ride is quite crashy - but thats just the run flats I guess.

Over all - pretty happy with it - it just swallows long distances.

Would I buy 1 now - would probably go for a 330d with a manual box.

Do miss the M3 engine though!

R
Interesting you say you'd now go for a 330d with a manual box! I had a manual in an E46 330Cd coupe and if I ever went diesel again my preference would actually be for an auto as I think it would be better suited to the characteristics of the engine (i.e. keep it in what is a narrow power band compared to a petrol). Also, the fun bits of having a manual in a petrol car like an M3 (enjoying the crisp throttle response, holding-on to the revs to use the top-end power and hear the noise) just don't apply in a diesel; reckon you're better with an auto and just letting it get on with it!

Looks like the OP is sorted with a 335d Touring, don't think he'll go far wrong with that!

335Diesel

120 posts

206 months

Monday 21st September 2009
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Nice one Martin! Are you enjoying it?
And did you have a VR6 once?
I had an R32 (mk4) Golf and absolutely loved it. Repeated vandalism (was fine when we lived in London, then we moved to Bristol) meant it had to go - I was gutted.

martin vr6

Original Poster:

3,883 posts

231 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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Very much so, a truly amazing car, im looking to ditch the runflats asap though, but its still early days, that aside a remap in the future will also be on the cards

Yes i have had several VR6s, in Corrado, Golf and Passat variants, the Golf being my favourite and the Corrado least so, then i also had an R32, it was a good car at the time but i had to sell it when i bought my flat, i never really loved the R32 as it was a bit of a disappointment coming from a supercharged VR6

My VW days are over for the moment and i think i will stick with the BMWs

martin vr6

Original Poster:

3,883 posts

231 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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Very much so, a truly amazing car, im looking to ditch the runflats asap though, but its still early days, that aside a remap in the future will also be on the cards

Yes i have had several VR6s, in Corrado, Golf and Passat variants, the Golf being my favourite and the Corrado least so, then i also had an R32, it was a good car at the time but i had to sell it when i bought my flat, i never really loved the R32 as it was a bit of a disappointment coming from a supercharged VR6

My VW days are over for the moment and i think i will stick with the BMWs

dxb335d

2,905 posts

225 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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In standard form a 335d can keep up with a E46 M3. its real world perfomance is very good.

The torque is addictive. A very good cross country machine. Seamless gear changes and power/torque on tap from 1500rpm-5000rpm, no drop off like some other diesels after 4000.

335Diesel

120 posts

206 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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dxb - welcome back but I have a feeling we might need to RUN AWAY RUN AWAY!

Discussing the merits of a 335d seems to be taboo here...

Alex

9,978 posts

314 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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CaptainSlowCoach said:
Get between 33 and 40 mpg.
What did you get from the M3? Given that diseasel is more expensive than petrol, it doesn't sound like the advantage would be great enough to tempt me out of an M3.

335Diesel

120 posts

206 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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Diesel and petrol cost the same down here - 105.9p

335d isn't hyper thrifty - I'm getting low to mid 30s most of the time. 40 if I drive like a geriatric.

JNW1

9,502 posts

224 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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Alex said:
CaptainSlowCoach said:
Get between 33 and 40 mpg.
What did you get from the M3? Given that diseasel is more expensive than petrol, it doesn't sound like the advantage would be great enough to tempt me out of an M3.
You won't see 30mpg out of an E46 M3 unless you're driving like a granny in which case why have one? I reckon 25mpg is a more realistic average (less if you're really trying!) and in like for like driving I'd guess the 335d is probably 10-12mpg better (and if you're doing a big mileage that could matter). However, given the choice I'd have (do have!) the M3 as I'm not a high mileage driver and to me there's more to a car than fuel economy and straight line performance.

The 335d is a very impressive machine (I've driven a couple) but would I swap the M3 for one if I was doing a higher mileage? Possibly but more likely my money would go on a 330i; less outlay, manual box, nice noise and best part of 40mpg with the latest engine!

martin vr6

Original Poster:

3,883 posts

231 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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I would still have the M3 if the replacement parts didn't take the pi$$, I would have spent the guts of £4000 in 1 year and 10000 miles on routine maintenance, as great a car it was I didn't think it was that great to warrant such an outlay, the fuel econy on the M3 wasn't bad though, better than my R32 Golf I ran previously, round town we averaged 22-23mpg on a run was closer to 30, but drive it properly in it's home territory you are looking at mid teens

And here's the final nail in my M3 ownership, dogs, 2 of them, we had always planned on getting a golden cocker spaniel but when we visited the breeder we ended up with 2 of them hence an estate being a necessity

I wanted something that we could use everyday, fit the dogs in, be practical but still fun to drive, and above all not cost the earth to run, the 335d IMO ticks all of these boxes

Would I have another M3, put simply no, too many up my way and the E46 is now being bought by less desireable individuals, and bringing the class of the car down. An E90/92 is a different story

Edited by martin vr6 on Wednesday 23 September 08:59

335Diesel

120 posts

206 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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An M3 Touring - now that would be fun!

superlightr

12,920 posts

293 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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335Diesel said:
Coupe E92- for chest wig users
Saloon E90- just a bit too much like a Mitsi Carisma
Convertible E93 - a bit gay and very heavy
Touring E91 - dead sutble and cool...
Am I mad or deaf for wanting to get a E93 335d convertable? or would a E93 335i Convertable be kinder on my ears? Yes i do want a convertable. but and it needs to be the E90 shape, just a D or an i is the question.