E60 5 series price watchers thread

[amir_j]

Was wondering how many other lurkers were out there?

Design is not liked by some but personally love them and hoping to buy a one owner, full history, black/grey 520d M Sport saloon 57 on (so facelift and lci). Before anyone asks, 530d is currently ruled out for insurance reasons, the 520d will be high enough, and mpg (prioritising long holiday trips uk and abroad over performance). Will be keeping the car 4 years+.

Being depreciation conscious waiting for them to get down to £15k with min spec of Prof sat nav, leather, heated seats, front and back parking sensors and bluetooth, ideally a light color interior and not wood unless very dark. Would pay more if fully loaded with xenons, comfort seats etc.

Current shed has just got a fresh mot so can wait

How about you?

Edited by amir_j on Tuesday 13th April 12:54

[Pickled Piper]

Yep, I posted on the other thread. I've had my 1998 E39 528i for about 9 years and can find nothing to replace it. It's still pristine with comfort seats and runs beautifully. I post every few months asking for suggestions for a replacement for the trusty E39 but have not been tempted away yet. I had a look at a couple of E60s last year and was thoroughly underwhelmed at what I could own for 17 to £18K.

My ideal replacement would be a blue car with black leather. Ideally comfort seats. M sport touring rather than a saloon. Automatic and with plenty of toys. Not too fussed about the engine as it will be a family hauler / school run car. I have a 993 for weekend fun and involved driving.

Thinking a late 2006 or early 2007. Also I hate grey so this limits the cars that fit the bill.

Let me know how you get on. I'm in no rush and I am speculating that when the new 5 is more visible on the road then the E60 prices will drop.

pp

[amir_j]

Pickled Piper said:

Also I hate grey so this limits the cars that fit the bill.

Have you looked at Platinum grey? Im not so keen on Space grey but Platinum grey in pics looks nice as very dark.

Platinum Grey:


Space Grey

[Pickled Piper]

Actually Platinum looks OK in the pic. I'll check it out in the skin. Cheers.

Space grey just doesn't do it for me.

The ideal for me would be some type of darkish blue, followed by carbon or solid black then at a push maybe silver.

pp

[g7jhp]

When does the new F10 5 series actually hit the roads?

[Pickled Piper]

g7jhp said:

When does the new F10 5 series actually hit the roads?

I've seen one on the road. Probably a demonstrator. I'm guessing that first customers are taking delivery about now.

pp

[Progressive]

Another one here waiting for the prices to drop. I'm in a similar position but with a lower budget (circa £12,000). Not looking for M-Sport. Just a good 5 (2.0d / 2.5d / 3.0d) with reasonable miles and leather.

There are some well in budget now but on older plates. Wouldn't mind holding out for possibly an 06 plate.

With regard to the new 5 that is being released, I think it will take at least 6 months before we feel a knock on effect on the prices on the old(er) shape.

[amir_j]

g7jhp said:

When does the new F10 5 series actually hit the roads?

Already out I think- 20th March launch

[amir_j]

Progressive said:

With regard to the new 5 that is being released, I think it will take at least 6 months before we feel a knock on effect on the prices on the old(er) shape.

In addition to the F10's I'm guessing a lot of 2007 facelift models are on 3 year leases (especially 520d company cars) and will also be coming out of the 3 years manufacturer warranty so will soon be on the market making 2006 ones cheaper so you shouldn't have too long to wait.

The e60 was the most successful 5 series ever so supply should be plentyful

[amir_j]

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/classifieds/1560686.h...

£16k for a 85k 57 plate with main dealer history.
How long till a similar one in Grey or Black with pro Sat nav, heated seats and 19's for £15k!

For 70k mileage, Glass's guide gives

BMW 5 Series 520d M Sport
2.0TD Diesel 4-door Saloon
6 Speed Automatic Rear Wheel Drive
Year: 2007 57
Mileage: 70,000

Part-exchange Price:
Excellent condition:
£14100
Average condition:
£12600
Below average condition:
£11200

[Pickled Piper]

amir_j said:

Progressive said:

With regard to the new 5 that is being released, I think it will take at least 6 months before we feel a knock on effect on the prices on the old(er) shape.

In addition to the F10's I'm guessing a lot of 2007 facelift models are on 3 year leases (especially 520d company cars) and will also be coming out of the 3 years manufacturer warranty so will soon be on the market making 2006 ones cheaper so you shouldn't have too long to wait.

The e60 was the most successful 5 series ever so supply should be plentyful

I remember when the e60 came out. It probably was about six months when E39 prices dropped sharply.

pp

[SJobson]

Platinum grey is lovely in the flesh, but surprisingly rare.

I posted on a thread a while ago that I couldn't see what an E60 would offer over my E39 540i for £20k more. However, for almost exactly £8k more I picked up an E61 545i about 2 months ago and have just waved goodbye to the E39.

The E61 is still under extended warranty, has lots of toys, but isn't a diesel, isn't an LCI and isn't an MSport, hence being very good value indeed, IMO.

It's a bit more modern than the E39, but isn't any 'better' really. Except in performance and fuel economy; consistently 2mpg better in the same conditions, and noticeably quicker. I've seen an auto figured at 13.6s from 0-100 so maybe not surprising that it feels quicker!

Oh, and condition based servicing is weird. I've already had a 'vehicle check' which seems not to involve the dealer actually touching the car, and in 4,000 miles it needs an oil change (nothing else) plus it needs brake pads in 32k miles (front) and 35k miles (rear). Plenty of smaller visits to the dealer, meaning you don't notice the drip-drip-drip of cash from your pocket...

[amir_j]

Just to keep a hopefully weekly running personal diary of diesal Approved BMW E60 prices

14 April 2010
Cheapest 57- plate: £16,990
Cheapest 57- plate M sport: £21,897
Cheapest 57- plate MSport with pro Sat nav: £21,897

20 April 2010- Note: changing to just 520d M Sport saloon (Nav is either business or Pro to save time, most will be media package)
Cheapest 57 on plate Manual: £19,990
Cheapest 57 on plate Auto: £20,950
Cheapest 57 on plate manual with nav: £20,283
Cheapest 57 on plate auto with nav: £23,990 (58 plate)

25th April 2010
Cheapest 57 on plate Manual: £18,990
Cheapest 57 on plate Auto: £20,950
Cheapest 57 on plate manual with nav: £19,998
Cheapest 57 on plate auto with nav: £23,995

2nd May 2010
Cheapest 57 on plate Manual:£18,990
Cheapest 57 on plate Auto: £18,990 (coreect and not same as above)
Cheapest 57 on plate manual with nav: £19,984
Cheapest 57 on plate auto with nav: £20,950

Edited by amir_j on Sunday 2nd May 12:42

[Pickled Piper]

amir_j said:

Just to keep a hopefully weekly running personal diary of diesal Approved BMW 360 prices

14 April 2010

Cheapest 57- plate: £16,990
Cheapest 57- plate M sport: £21,897
Cheapest 57- plate MSport with pro Sat nav: £21,897

Amir, what is the pro Sat Nav?

I'm also thinking of a non M Sport. While they look good I've heard the ride is very firm. I'll need to drive one.

pp

[amir_j]

Pickled Piper said:

amir_j said:

Just to keep a hopefully weekly running personal diary of diesal Approved BMW 360 prices

14 April 2010

Cheapest 57- plate: £16,990
Cheapest 57- plate M sport: £21,897
Cheapest 57- plate MSport with pro Sat nav: £21,897

Amir, what is the pro Sat Nav?

I'm also thinking of a non M Sport. While they look good I've heard the ride is very firm. I'll need to drive one.

pp

From what I know: BMW did two options for sat nav. Cheaper one is called buisness and the top one is called professional. Pre-2007 business did not have a moving map but just arrows telling you which way to go, the screen was also slightly smaller. After 2007 at somepoint (facelift assuming) they changed so both had moving maps but pro still had a few additional features.

Yup everything ive read points to the M Sport being very firm as lower and suspension is stiffer so SE is a better day to day option, m sport just looks slightly better with the additional bodykit/wheels, lowered suspension and interior bits so willing to put up with it.

Car park at work today has a 58 black M-sport, 56 black SE and 05 Space grey sport in it, Space grey actually looks very nice.

Edited by amir_j on Thursday 15th April 12:54

[Ciaran]

Keeping my eye out for a 2005 / 2006 525d or 530d Sport in Black with black heated leather under 75k.

[Pickled Piper]

amir_j said:

Pickled Piper said:

amir_j said:

Just to keep a hopefully weekly running personal diary of diesal Approved BMW 360 prices

14 April 2010

Cheapest 57- plate: £16,990
Cheapest 57- plate M sport: £21,897
Cheapest 57- plate MSport with pro Sat nav: £21,897

Amir, what is the pro Sat Nav?

I'm also thinking of a non M Sport. While they look good I've heard the ride is very firm. I'll need to drive one.

pp

From what I know: BMW did two options for sat nav. Cheaper one is called buisness and the top one is called professional. Pre-2007 business did not have a moving map but just arrows telling you which way to go, the screen was also slightly smaller. After 2007 at somepoint (facelift assuming) they changed so both had moving maps but pro still had a few additional features.

Yup everything ive read points to the M Sport being very firm as lower and suspension is stiffer so SE is a better day to day option, m sport just looks slightly better with the additional bodykit/wheels, lowered suspension and interior bits so willing to put up with it.

Car park at work today has a 58 black M-sport, 56 black SE and 05 Space grey sport in it, Space grey actually looks very nice.

Edited by amir_j on Thursday 15th April 12:54

Thanks. I agree the M Sports look great. Love the spoilers and skirts. It's just I like my daily driver to waft me around rather than jiggle my fillings. I'll give them a try.

Cheers.

pp

[Progressive]

Ciaran said:

Keeping my eye out for a 2005 / 2006 525d or 530d Sport in Black with black heated leather under 75k.

Pretty much the same as me mate. What's your budget (ballpark). Have you had much luck yet? Finding one with the right miles is key. They seem to be under-specced with the right miles or 100k+.

[Ciaran]

Progressive said:

Ciaran said:

Keeping my eye out for a 2005 / 2006 525d or 530d Sport in Black with black heated leather under 75k.

Pretty much the same as me mate. What's your budget (ballpark). Have you had much luck yet? Finding one with the right miles is key. They seem to be under-specced with the right miles or 100k+.

I've seen a few but not with heated seats though. I'd be happy with the half leather as I'm not overly keen on full leather to be hoenst so that would cut out the heated bit. Privacy glass would be a must though.

Budget wise - probably £13k, although need to sell my current chariot first!

Edited by Ciaran on Thursday 15th April 15:04

[gizlaroc]

The myth that the M-Sport is a harsher ride comes from uneducated sales staff who just expect it to be the harder riding car, seriously, my mate has just left BMW after 4 years and when I asked him what he thought of the E60 compared with the new E Class, he is now at Mercedes, he had to admit he hadn't actually driven either!!


The M-Sport uses really nice Bilstein dampers with Eibach springs and they soak up the poor UK roads far better than the cheap Boge/Sachs set up on the SE.

Best thing to do is budget £500 for 4 real tyres and a spacesaver and get whichever one you prefer, both are extremely comfy then.