E46 330ci restricted performance (re-posted)
E46 330ci restricted performance (re-posted)
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thejeffery

Original Poster:

11 posts

266 months

Monday 14th June 2010
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I’ve got a BMW 330ci “E46” and for quite some time now I’ve noticed that it’s performance seems a bit limited.

It’s been to BMW a couple of times and they cannot find fault with it.

She starts up fine and the engine has never missed a beat. She gets through about 1 litre of oil every 1,000 miles which I’ve never had on a car before and which I think is excessive, but I’ve been told by BMW themselves is normal for that type of engine.

The symptoms are as follows:

Once the engine is all up to temperature and you can start to give it the “beans”, when accelerating it seems to “bog down”. There’s a nice burble from the exhaust but it doesn’t really go any faster, however as you start to ease off the accelerator pedal it seems to catch up with itself and the acceleration seems to increase.

I’ve looked at various forums and people with similar restricted performance issues have suggested either a dirty or broken MAF sensor, however they also mention that their restricted performance was accompanied by poor starting / stalling vehicles, however like I’ve said mine runs fine, its only when accelerating that I notice a problem.

I’ve carefully removed the MAF sensor and cleaned it with both electric contact cleaner and carb cleaner but this has made no difference at all!

People have also suggested I unplug the MAF sensor and see if the performance improves, as they say the car will revert back to a factory setting. I’ve tried this and can’t really notice any difference.

BMW have quoted me £340 to change the MAF but as you can appreciate without knowing that it is definitely the problem I’m not keen to do this at the moment.

Any help would be much appreciated.

rb5230

11,657 posts

203 months

Monday 14th June 2010
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i have a friend with a 330ci cab and it seems slower than my other friends 323ci coupe. performance stats suggest it should be totally the other way but reality says otherwise. if your car indeed has a problem, then i would suggest his would be the same problem as it seems a perfect runner and makes a decent sound but just is not as fast as the 230 or so bhp would suggest. His car also uses a fair amount of oil. (within bmw tolerances, what a joke)

Edited by rb5230 on Monday 14th June 13:21

Targarama

14,791 posts

314 months

Monday 14th June 2010
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I would look at the coil packs.

Edited to say: although this won't help your oil consumption which looks a little high to me.

Edited by Targarama on Monday 14th June 13:13

Devil2575

13,400 posts

219 months

Monday 14th June 2010
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1 litre per 1000 miles is within the acceptable limits according to BMW but it does increase the cost of motoring somewhat.


Spartikus

149 posts

264 months

Monday 14th June 2010
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My E46 M3 uses no oil...

Spartikus

149 posts

264 months

Monday 14th June 2010
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My E46 M3 uses no oil. Neither did my 330

Oi_Oi_Savaloy

2,315 posts

291 months

Monday 14th June 2010
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Could it be a maf issue or maybe a fuel pump(s) issue maybe?


Martyn D

424 posts

205 months

Monday 14th June 2010
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If it is the maf sensor (usually faulty ones won't show up on a code read) just disconnect it, it will go to the default setting, then drive the car, if it feels better then it'll point to the fault, the poor starting/idling you mention is usually a faulty cam sensor.
Most other things will show up on a code read though a split hose will cause problems, doubtful to be this at it causes idling problems.
Check the twin exhausts and make sure the flap in the 2nd exhaust isn't stuck closed as this can cause a problem at higher revs.
Hope you get the problen sorted.


Edited by Martyn D on Monday 14th June 20:20

dave144

261 posts

201 months

Monday 14th June 2010
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Could it be the vanos seals causing the poor performance? Got a 330i aswell and will be getting mine changed next service. As for oil consumption I had a 320i e46 that used a litre of oil every 600 miles!!

gf15

1,038 posts

297 months

Friday 18th June 2010
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2002, 330i @ 40k: half a litre in 5k miles.
1999 740i @ 170k uses no oil.

Sods Law

3,280 posts

256 months

Friday 18th June 2010
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Ok all I can add is on Surrey Rolling road I see

233hp
222FTLB
Healthy o2 mix
and at 85k I use about 500ml oil in 7k

as to power I have no issues after a full spark plug change

Have you put it on a RR?

also have you changed the dispack units arounds to see if there are any changes?

D

AdamD

501 posts

251 months

Saturday 19th June 2010
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Worth checking out the DISA air intake flap, when this started failing on my Z4 the engine had quite a loud warble and pulled ok but nowhere as crisp as when I fitted a new working replacement.

Its on the air intake side of the engine near the top, big plastic device with one electrical plug and a moving plunger which actuates a flap inside the engine intake to vary the air flow characteristics.

With the engine idling does the unit rattle, remove the electric plug and does the rattling stop. Go for a drive with and without it connected and see if it make a difference above 4k rpm.

Good luck!

Adam.

4rephill

5,171 posts

209 months

Sunday 20th June 2010
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anonymous said:
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+1 yes , BMW say as little as 600 miles per litre of oil is within specification.

ZeroSum

208 posts

234 months

Monday 21st June 2010
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Clogged cat? O2 Sensors, Vanos?

thejeffery

Original Poster:

11 posts

266 months

Monday 21st June 2010
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Cheers for all the responses guys, really appreciated.

I've done some research on some of the suggestions preople have made, but almost all of these seem to be accompanied by bad idle / rough running etc. however the engine on my car runs fine its just down on power under acceleration!

Was wondering if it was something like a blocked crankcase breather valve or a bad throttle position sensor, which may not necessarily thow any error codes when read by BMW diognostic machine? Would these cause loss of power without the engine running roughly???

Fox-

13,575 posts

277 months

Monday 21st June 2010
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Sounds very much like the VANOS oil seal issue which affects almost every M54 engine made.

Targarama

14,791 posts

314 months

Monday 21st June 2010
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Coil packs breaking down won't necessarily show on idle/gentle throttle. They break down/play up under load.

Podie

46,649 posts

306 months

Monday 21st June 2010
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4rephill said:
anonymous said:
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+1 yes , BMW say as little as 600 miles per litre of oil is within specification.
What else is the M54 engine in?

Fox-

13,575 posts

277 months

Monday 21st June 2010
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Podie said:
4rephill said:
anonymous said:
[redacted]
+1 yes , BMW say as little as 600 miles per litre of oil is within specification.
What else is the M54 engine in?
From memory, so don't shoot me if it's not an exhuastive list..

2000-2003 E39 5 Series
2000-2006 E46 3 Series
2003-2005 E60 5 Series
2003-2005 E63 6 Series
2000-2005 E53 X5
2004-2005 X3?
2003-2006 E85 Z4
2000-2002 E36 Z3
2001-2004 E65 7 Series


ian_cab28

210 posts

248 months

Monday 21st June 2010
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Yep the 2 x M54 I've had (x5, 330ci) both like a drink (1litre in 1000miles for the x5) much more so than the m52 version. BMW say it is a trade off between internal friction (and hence economy) and oil consumption, probably BS tho ! I always take oil consumption as a sign of a knackered engine, probably best I don't get an e39 m5 then !

Ian