Interesting statement about non-RFT on RFT cars...
Interesting statement about non-RFT on RFT cars...
Author
Discussion

HellDiver

Original Poster:

5,708 posts

212 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
quotequote all
http://www.blackcircles.com/news/2010/aug/run-flat...

Quote:
If you have your car – with run flat rims – fitted with a tyre that does not have run flat technology, you could find that your insurance immediately becomes void. So, if you are then involved in an accident, you could be held accountable, with no financial cover to protect you.

Just a heads up - you may want to check with your insurance co before changing to non-RFT tyres on your Beemers.

roofer

5,136 posts

241 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
quotequote all
I have, its scaremongering....

Steff

1,421 posts

293 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
quotequote all
complete bks...

Gibo993

966 posts

295 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
quotequote all
I was told by a local tyre fitters that the car would be un-insured and the Warranty would be completely void.
I went elsewhere in fact Martins Tyres West End Woking Brilliant service very good value, and they repair punctures and do not try and flog you a full set of replacements, try them if you live near

snorkel sucker

2,721 posts

233 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
quotequote all
have never understood this. i was refused service from two garages unless i fitted run flat tyres again; they both said that my warranty and insurance would be void. i went elsewhere and got some normal tyres fitted. the car subsequently went through its MOT (at BMW) with no issues

fitting different tyres is no different to choosing different oil, or different brake pads and may actually offer improved handling and performance, In the case of the non run flat tyres, this is indeed the case, the tyres being much more predictable in the wet, which is surely a good thing when it comes to your insurance!

christer

2,804 posts

281 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
quotequote all
roofer said:
I have, its scaremongering....
It would be useful if you included details to support your statement so that we know the source of the confirmation.

Carl_Spackler

3,150 posts

218 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
quotequote all
snorkel sucker said:
have never understood this. i was refused service from two garages unless i fitted run flat tyres again; they both said that my warranty and insurance would be void. i went elsewhere and got some normal tyres fitted. the car subsequently went through its MOT (at BMW) with no issues

fitting different tyres is no different to choosing different oil, or different brake pads and may actually offer improved handling and performance, In the case of the non run flat tyres, this is indeed the case, the tyres being much more predictable in the wet, which is surely a good thing when it comes to your insurance!
Blow out on the motorway and your car needs 2k worth of repairs, if runflats were fitted you'd have noticed a light on your dashboard and that's it???

SJobson

13,873 posts

294 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
quotequote all
christer said:
roofer said:
I have, its scaremongering....
It would be useful if you included details to support your statement so that we know the source of the confirmation.
What details do you need? Some evidence to support blackcircles' original assertion (and note they are a tyre supplier, not a car manufacturer or insurer) would be more useful.

People are willing to believe all sorts of crap about run-flats. Such as not being able to repair a puncture (err.. well who would know better than the tyre maker; check on Goodyear's website which says puncture repair is the same as any normal tyre). They're just tyres, they have stiffer sidewalls than normal.

TuxRacer

13,966 posts

221 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
quotequote all
christer said:
roofer said:
I have, its scaremongering....
It would be useful if you included details to support your statement so that we know the source of the confirmation.
I have a few other negatives I'd like him to prove afterwards too.

MidlandDan84

588 posts

208 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
quotequote all
Not to stir the st but when i enquired to my insurance company and lease company about the possibility of changing to non-RFT's they both trotted out a long list of reasons why i shouldnt / couldnt etc etc.

Though to be honest, i dont mind RFTs'getmecoat

rich_vw

814 posts

222 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
quotequote all
I was going to change to non-RFT's on the 1er earlier on in the year but phoned the insurance 'just to make sure' who requested a letter off BMW prior to agreement. I invested in new RFT's, could not be bothered with that kind of rubbish.

psymonr

148 posts

211 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
quotequote all
I rang my insurers (NFU) before I changed the run flats on my E90, they said they didn't mind that they weren't run flats as long as they were the correct size tyres for the wheels,

aeropilot

40,826 posts

257 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
quotequote all
snorkel sucker said:
have never understood this. i was refused service from two garages unless i fitted run flat tyres again; they both said that my warranty and insurance would be void. i went elsewhere and got some normal tyres fitted. the car subsequently went through its MOT (at BMW) with no issues
Not surprising as BMW dealers are now advertising and advocating the fittment of winter tyres............. and they arn't runflat..... so the warranty issue is complete tosh as is the insurance issue.

RFT's are not anti-blow out tyres they are just extra stiff sidewalls which don't overheat and disintigrate to allow you to run a car at a reduced speed a limited distance to get to a tyre depot in the case of a puncture.

HellDiver

Original Poster:

5,708 posts

212 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
quotequote all
aeropilot said:
Not surprising as BMW dealers are now advertising and advocating the fittment of winter tyres............. and they arn't runflat.....
Really? Odd that Bridgestone, Michelin, Vredestein and Pirelli all do several different models of runflat winters in the popular BMW sizes.

I think the point of the article is that the suspension is set up to suit RFT tyres, and changing to normal tyres can compromise the suspension.

Edited by HellDiver on Monday 23 August 13:34

MidlandDan84

588 posts

208 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
quotequote all
rich_vw said:
I was going to change to non-RFT's on the 1er earlier on in the year but phoned the insurance 'just to make sure' who requested a letter off BMW prior to agreement. I invested in new RFT's, could not be bothered with that kind of rubbish.
yes Exactly, i got much the same response, too much hassle.

aeropilot

40,826 posts

257 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
quotequote all
HellDiver said:
aeropilot said:
Not surprising as BMW dealers are now advertising and advocating the fittment of winter tyres............. and they arn't runflat.....
Really? Odd that Bridgestone, Michelin, Vredestein and Pirelli all do several different models of runflat winters in the popular BMW sizes.
OK fair do's....... I've been fed duff info......and I didn't bother to check further..... probably because it seemed logical to me that stiff sidewalls of RFT wouldn't seem to fit with the 'softer' design needed for winter tyres.




Bugeyeandy

12,690 posts

227 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
quotequote all
Carl_Spackler said:
snorkel sucker said:
have never understood this. i was refused service from two garages unless i fitted run flat tyres again; they both said that my warranty and insurance would be void. i went elsewhere and got some normal tyres fitted. the car subsequently went through its MOT (at BMW) with no issues

fitting different tyres is no different to choosing different oil, or different brake pads and may actually offer improved handling and performance, In the case of the non run flat tyres, this is indeed the case, the tyres being much more predictable in the wet, which is surely a good thing when it comes to your insurance!
Blow out on the motorway and your car needs 2k worth of repairs, if runflats were fitted you'd have noticed a light on your dashboard and that's it???
I think if your run flats blow out on the motorway you'll end up with more than a light on the dashboard. They aren't a miracle cure.

I run my Mini on normal tyres now as the ride is improved and they are a little cheaper for the same quality of tyre. I believe there are a lot of myths about swapping over to normal tyres but i've never had any problems getting insured or getting new tyres fitted.

That said I can see the advantage of being able to drive for a bit and find a tyre place if you just have a puncture in a RFT. Blow outs however - same result with both types.

SJobson

13,873 posts

294 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
quotequote all
HellDiver said:
I think the point of the article is that the suspension is set up to suit RFT tyres, and changing to normal tyres can compromise the suspension.
E60s didn't get different suspension settings for the countries where they were sold with normal (non-RFT) tyres, did they?

HellDiver

Original Poster:

5,708 posts

212 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
quotequote all
SJobson said:
HellDiver said:
I think the point of the article is that the suspension is set up to suit RFT tyres, and changing to normal tyres can compromise the suspension.
E60s didn't get different suspension settings for the countries where they were sold with normal (non-RFT) tyres, did they?
No idea, I'm not a BMW expert, I'm just saying what I've read in the web in the past few years, including press stuff from BMW extolling the virtues of runflats.

SJobson

13,873 posts

294 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
quotequote all
As I said previously in this thread, there's a lot of guff which has been talked about RFTs.