RE: PH2: Dainese unveils 'stand-alone' motorcycle airb
RE: PH2: Dainese unveils 'stand-alone' motorcycle airb
Wednesday 2nd November 2011

PH2: Dainese Unveils 'Stand-Alone' Bike Airbag

Dainese D-air Street brings ingenious 'airbag' race suit to the public road



Dainese is a well-known brand within the motorcycle world that has expanded its operation outside two wheels. Not only do they make leather motorcycle race suits and textile jackets (Valentino Rossi is one of their sponsored riders), they also make protective equipment for snowboarding, horse riding, mountain biking and most baddies you see in 'futuristic' movies seem to be wearing their body armour. Basically, if you can fall off it, Dainese will make something to lessen the impact.

For the past ten years the company has been busy developing its 'D-air' system, the motorcycling equivalent of a car's airbag. The problem with bikes is that, unlike in cars, you can't just cocoon a rider in a protective bubble. In a bike accident the rider tends to get thrown from the vehicle and so the airbag needs to be attached to the actual rider. So how do you trigger the airbag?

Last year Dainese launched a motorcycle race suit that had an airbag built into it. A lot of MotoGP riders race with this suit and in the speed hump (the lump on the back of the leathers) is an ECU that is connected to a GPS unit and a stack of sensors. The GPS tells the ECU that the bike is being ridden and arms the airbag system.

At this point the sensors monitor the rider's movement and, when the data shows that he has had an accident, it triggers the airbag to inflate. It has taken Dainese a long time to create the algorithms that identify an accident, but as racers competing at the very highest level are happy to trust it not to go off it is safe to assume they have got it right! The airbag inflates almost instantly under the race suit and protects the rider's neck and top half of his body from impact. While this system has proven very effective on the track, it has taken Dainese another year to develop it for road use.

The D-air Street is designed as a day-to-day airbag system that can either be bought as a jacket or a stand-alone vest that is worn over your normal riding equipment. The clever part of the Street is how it is activated. A sensor kit is attached to your bike's forks and frame and it monitors the bike's movement. When it detects an accident it wirelessly triggers the airbag and in less 45 milliseconds you and your pillion are protected by the airbag in your jackets.

What makes this system so neat is that there are no pull-cords or devices attaching the airbag to the bike; it's all done wirelessly so you can forget about it and just ride. The airbag itself creates a 'cage' of air around the ribs, spine and vital organs ,as well as limiting extreme neck movements. According to Dainese it cuts the forces transferred to the body by 82 per cent, making it highly effective.

The bike sensor kit should cost £390, the D-air Street jackets are £850 and £1,310 depending on style and material while the stand-alone vest is £640. See www.dainese,com

 

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arkenphel

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484 posts

226 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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I'm not a biker, but this is a very cool invention! I presume each jacket has to be synced with the bike you are on, otherwise, if may end up triggering if the biker NEXT to you has an accident! biglaugh

DonkeyApple

65,771 posts

190 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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You wouldn't want the trigger signal working on the frequency of say garage door openers etc?

Seems a brilliant option but I would be mildly hesitant re the wireless signal trigger.

cookie1600

2,422 posts

182 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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ZesPak

25,958 posts

217 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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As said in the article, if it works in racing, why wouldn't it on the road?

I'm very curious as to how this develops tbh.

Here's a compilation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrVKo94WQhg

If they are -as the video claims- all airbag deploying vids, it's hard to see it deploy but I can imagine it being very effective.

ktm301p

746 posts

210 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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This is an excellent step forward in rider safety.

I hope to see more products being developed that enhance the riders safety in the future.

anonymous-user

75 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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ktm301p said:
This is an excellent step forward in rider safety.

I hope to see more products being developed that enhance the riders safety in the future.
Seconded. It's brilliant. Even more so when I'm considering getting another bike at the moment....

J B L

4,217 posts

236 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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ZesPak said:
As said in the article, if it works in racing, why wouldn't it on the road?

I'm very curious as to how this develops tbh.
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There are no kerb, trees, lamposts on a track to stop your slide if you lowside for example.

It's a step in the right direction but they need to go further and integrate these systems in trousers and sleeves. I am sure I've read somewhere that limbs where the first body part to take a hard hit when crashing on the road.

Anything that improves safety's good though, especially if it brings more people back to biking.



DonkeyApple

65,771 posts

190 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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J B L said:
ZesPak said:
As said in the article, if it works in racing, why wouldn't it on the road?

I'm very curious as to how this develops tbh.
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There are no kerb, trees, lamposts on a track to stop your slide if you lowside for example.

It's a step in the right direction but they need to go further and integrate these systems in trousers and sleeves. I am sure I've read somewhere that limbs where the first body part to take a hard hit when crashing on the road.

Anything that improves safety's good though, especially if it brings more people back to biking.
Are they used on the TT? That would be a better representation?

All in a great idea, but I wonder if there is an arguement that it will lead to more reckless riding as the rider feels safer and ergo more confident. This claim has been levied at airbags in cars.

ZesPak

25,958 posts

217 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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J B L said:
ZesPak said:
As said in the article, if it works in racing, why wouldn't it on the road?

I'm very curious as to how this develops tbh.
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There are no kerb, trees, lamposts on a track to stop your slide if you lowside for example.

It's a step in the right direction but they need to go further and integrate these systems in trousers and sleeves. I am sure I've read somewhere that limbs where the first body part to take a hard hit when crashing on the road.

Anything that improves safety's good though, especially if it brings more people back to biking.
You're right about the kerbs and the trees, but that doesn't say it won't help. Airbags in a car won't help you if you have a brick going through your windshield, but in other cases it helps.
Agreed it could be developed more though, maybe even including legs and arms.

DonkeyApple said:
Are they used on the TT? That would be a better representation?

All in a great idea, but I wonder if there is an arguement that it will lead to more reckless riding as the rider feels safer and ergo more confident. This claim has been levied at airbags in cars.
Human stupidity is a bad basis on which to dismiss new technology like this imho.
Also, let's hope they don't make it mandatory as I don't want to put it on every time I hop to the shop.

jp-speed-triple

1,504 posts

208 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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Cracking development and a great design step to fire it from on bike sensors.

wonder if they'll make it sizes big enough for those other than Italian anorexics.

Was in Dainese Manchester last night trying to buy IZ a new textile suit...She's a genuine 40 in all her kit....at size 48 in Dainese, she gave up as a bad job as it fit like the bag its sold in.

Such a shame as its great brand and its products are well made and designed. I can't buy it any more as I can't get in it and I have a Dainese suit that fits fine form 4 years ago.


Edited by jp-speed-triple on Wednesday 2nd November 12:52

F.C.

3,899 posts

229 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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ZesPak said:
Human stupidity is a bad basis on which to dismiss new technology like this imho.
Also, let's hope they don't make it mandatory as I don't want to put it on every time I hop to the shop.
shout Stand by Eurocrats! Time to nanny every one into compulsory airbag suits. rolleyes

y2blade

56,251 posts

236 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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F.C. said:
ZesPak said:
Human stupidity is a bad basis on which to dismiss new technology like this imho.
Also, let's hope they don't make it mandatory as I don't want to put it on every time I hop to the shop.
shout Stand by Eurocrats! Time to nanny every one into compulsory airbag suits. rolleyes
what would be wrong with that?

ZesPak

25,958 posts

217 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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y2blade said:
what would be wrong with that?
For a quick hop to the shops - no more £300 leather jacket, but a £1000 jacket that weighs 10kg.

But, that won't happen just yet as there first must be a CE certification for motorcycle clothes like there is for helmets. (how else make it mandatory?)

RB Will

10,589 posts

261 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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Do you have to recharge it or buy a new set every year when the batteries run out?

M400 NBL

3,541 posts

233 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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Seems very good but why not have anothet one that is always inflated that looks good. For those that don't want to shell out a lot of money for the one that requires sensors.

My brother died in a motorbike accident from chest injuries, so I know how important these are. So well done.

NDT

1,766 posts

284 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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M400 NBL said:
Seems very good but why not have anothet one that is always inflated that looks good. For those that don't want to shell out a lot of money for the one that requires sensors.

My brother died in a motorbike accident from chest injuries, so I know how important these are. So well done.
Because it's probably gong to be very stiff when inflated - hence the protection.

y2blade

56,251 posts

236 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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ZesPak said:
y2blade said:
what would be wrong with that?
For a quick hop to the shops - no more £300 leather jacket, but a £1000 jacket that weighs 10kg.

But, that won't happen just yet as there first must be a CE certification for motorcycle clothes like there is for helmets. (how else make it mandatory?)
Pretty weak example, you do your weekly shop on a motorbike do you?

...I'm all for it yes

Andy XRV

3,898 posts

201 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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I've been down the road a few times but I don't think the air suit would have reduced my injuries which have been, wrist, shoulder, elbows, knees and hips.

And as the cheapest single bike option is 390 + 640.00 = 1,030.00 it's not for me.

snorky

2,322 posts

272 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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y2blade said:
Pretty weak example, you do your weekly shop on a motorbike do you?

...I'm all for it yes
good for you, but we don't all want to HAVE to do it coz you think it is a good idea...

carinatauk

1,550 posts

273 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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The idea seems to have some momentum.

There are many potential injuries that can result from an off, but I don't have the details to say there is a greater number of chest vs limb injuries.

The item has been developed on the track where other dangers don't lie. The bag will have a maximum inflation time, most injuries, ie low siders, result from extended periods of friction or colliding with the kerb etc. So whilst the air bag will be good in some instances, it won't in others. A bit like the neck brace, which has a following albeit a small number.

I would guess that you will need a specially adapted jacket / suit; or I can see that it will lift the jacket and provide a bit more skin area.

For off road and enduro, I doubt it will have much value. It depends on how often you fall off!

For side on to car impacts I can see some value but even then, most of the damage is limbs and head

I remain open minded but I started ride when men were men and you could ride around in shorts without someone whinging about it biggrin