Fix current baby CBR or replace it, fixing later?
Fix current baby CBR or replace it, fixing later?
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CBR JGWRR

Original Poster:

6,580 posts

175 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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Can't decide which to do, have 2 and a half weeks to play with before I'm able to ride a geared bike again owing to right leg in cast, budget of around a grand, don't mind buying a damaged machine and fixing it up...

What would you guys do?



ETA - Current CBR is going to be fixed up at some point regardless.

Yazza54

20,279 posts

207 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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If I was you, and I don't mean to be funny, but I'd buy a proper bike. Your emotional ties have been severed with this bike now, use it as an excuse to get a bigger bike and move on. Something with tyres that don't look like they're from a bicycle might inspire your confidence again.

CBR JGWRR

Original Poster:

6,580 posts

175 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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My emotional ties haven't been severed, I've not lost any confidence with it. Accidents happen, and that's what Thursday was. An accident. I'm less keen on rain now but that's a good idea really.


I'm looking at anything, but given I only have a grand to work with I don't really have the money to run a big bike. The thing is I can always get a big bike later. In fact, it's guaranteed I will. But it's not that feasible when I can't afford to buy and insure one right now...

See what I mean?




Yazza54

20,279 posts

207 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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Fair enough mate smile

phatgixer

4,988 posts

275 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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Stop faffing about with that old snotter and buy a performance bike. You had it far too long, anyhow. Just move on and up. smile

CBR JGWRR

Original Poster:

6,580 posts

175 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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Yazza54 said:
Fair enough mate smile
No worries.

Half the problem is it's only been 5 days since the crash, and it's been a fair old rollercoaster for me - Laid at the side of the road after the accident it looked to me that it was dead and gone beyond any hope, now it's sitting home and I know it's fixable.

I also know that it could easily become very expensive and much more serious again if there's problems that haven't reared their ugly head yet with the damage, and I'm not sure about committing limited resources into a repair job when the sensible part of me says get a different bike in good nick or reasonably approaching good nick for a while and fix the baby CBR as and when.

For all I know at this stage the frame could be twisted, and we all know what that means...

phatgixer

4,988 posts

275 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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CBR, have you got a full unrestricted licence?

Yazza54

20,279 posts

207 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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I understand, however if I were you with a limited budget I'd seriously avoid spending any more money on it. I know you love the thing but is it really economical to fix?

Charlie Foxtrot

3,228 posts

241 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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CBR JGWRR said:
Half the problem is it's only been 5 2 days since the crash, and it's been a fair old rollercoaster for me - Laid at the side of the road after the accident it looked to me that it was dead and gone beyond any hope, now it's sitting home and I know it's fixable.

I also know that it could easily become very expensive and much more serious again if there's problems that haven't reared their ugly head yet with the damage, and I'm not sure about committing limited resources into a repair job when the sensible part of me says get a different bike in good nick or reasonably approaching good nick for a while and fix the baby CBR as and when turn it into a track bike

For all I know at this stage the frame could be twisted, and we all know what that means...
Dude, we're thinking the same thing. Except it's obvious I drink more gin than you.

MotorsportTom

3,343 posts

187 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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CBR JGWRR said:
But it's not that feasible when I can't afford to buy and insure one right now...
You're not trying hard enough. There are massive bargains to be had if you look at older big bikes!

You can pick up early 90's bike for sub £600 that will be a great step up and wont break the bank to insure.

Stop dillying and start making man maths work thumbup

13aines

2,208 posts

175 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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Yazza54 said:
If I was you, and I don't mean to be funny, but I'd buy a proper bike. Your emotional ties have been severed with this bike now, use it as an excuse to get a bigger bike and move on. Something with tyres that don't look like they're from a bicycle might inspire your confidence again.
phatgixer said:
Stop faffing about with that old snotter and buy a performance bike. You had it far too long, anyhow. Just move on and up. smile
phatgixer said:
CBR, have you got a full unrestricted licence?
Yes, yes and yes!

CBR JGWRR

Original Poster:

6,580 posts

175 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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phatgixer said:
Stop faffing about with that old snotter and buy a performance bike. You had it far too long, anyhow. Just move on and up. smile
The problem comes when I start riding it - I like to feel like I'm making use of the bike, where safe to do so. Ie, not Thursday...

It's one of the reasons why I like the CBR is that Full on race starts at traffic lights, 10-11k rpm everywhere, going flat out is actually still within the speed limits and well within the conditions. 0 to 60 is over 10 seconds for crying out loud. Some cars can get to double that in that much time...



Yazza54 said:
I understand, however if I were you with a limited budget I'd seriously avoid spending any more money on it. I know you love the thing but is it really economical to fix?
Hell no, just replacing the fairings writes it off economically... I paid 400 quid for it.

It's a labour of love I'd be doing it for, which is why I don't actually care about the time to fix it up or the cost. It's a keeper for me, and as long as I fix it up I'll be happy.


Mandown46 said:
Get shot of it, buy something else, better.
Apart from the first four words, that's what's going through my head. makes most sense really...



phatgixer said:
CBR, have you got a full unrestricted licence?
Nope, sadly. booked in for it, took Mod 1 but circumstances changed and I missed the chance to get in before the regs went to the new system, and I would rather do the test once at 24 via DAS than do it twice but get onto big bikes sooner...

As said, I will get a big bike one day. Probably April 2017...

Think of it as 4 years worth of saving up.

MotorsportTom said:
You're not trying hard enough. There are massive bargains to be had if you look at older big bikes!

You can pick up early 90's bike for sub £600 that will be a great step up and wont break the bank to insure.

Stop dillying and start making man maths work thumbup
Buying the bikes the easy bit, there's loads out there. I know that... The problem comes when even a 125 is 300 quid to insure, even something cheap and cheerful like a GS500 is 400 odd, anything interesting is a bit more...

I guess my past history earnt that for me though, so can't really complain about insurance.



Charlie Foxtrot said:
Dude, we're thinking the same thing. Except it's obvious I drink more gin than you.
Nevermind trackdays, they race them in some countries. smile


MotorsportTom

3,343 posts

187 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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D'oh I thought you had your full licence!

Seriously though a GPZ will be cheaper than a GS500, faster and probably cheaper to insure (obviously not knowing the history you mention)


Slink

2,947 posts

198 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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so you have only got a CBT?

why not get through the test soon, then your able to ride a 46bhp bike (cannot remember the weight amount or if it restricted it cannot be over a certain bhp when unrestricted though), like a fazer 6, you could get the thing restricted quite easy and that should be within the regs aswell.

if you do your test soon, yes, you have to to take another test to ride a proper big bike, but wouldnt you rather ride a proper but restricted bike for a few years then do the next test, pass that then be unrestricted an all you have to do is take the restricter plate out the carbs (or whereever the restrictions are)
then you have a bike that your used to riding but with more power.

and as you have been riding around on a restricted bike for a while, you are more likely to pass the second test as you have the confidence in riding around, and 'should' be able to ace stuff like swerve and U turn, as you can practice those to your hearts content on empty roads, when ever you want.

not sure on this bit, but you might be able to use the restricted bike you have been riding around on for your full test aswell, as you are used to riding it, the test will be easier as you dont have to think about the bike, just your manoeuvring, signals and lifesavers an stuff. but by that time they should be second nature as you have been riding around doing them for ages, so it will be a hell of a lot easier for the second test.

13aines

2,208 posts

175 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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Get the test done! It'll be the best thing you've ever done.

Get a CB500 or GS500 or some other old simple bike, and insure it.

£400 is naff all for insurance, less than £10 a week, you couldn't insure many cars for less, let alone cars with bike performance!

Why spend over a grand (AGAIN!) on the old 125 when you could get the tests done, maybe save a little bit longer, and buy a cheap old 'big' bike and insure that...

GS500, ZZR, GPZ, CB500 etc.


fordforever

263 posts

165 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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try to find a cbr that has been written of for another reason on the cheap, then youll have lots of spare parts?

CBR JGWRR

Original Poster:

6,580 posts

175 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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400 quid comprises 2/5ths of the budget remember - and I'm not putting it on finance because it's stupid to borrow money for a depreciating asset.

I know about what bikes to move onto, and I know about the test. I'm just not in the right financial position right now.

On the test front I can't see the point of doing 2 sets of tests and lessons when I could wait a bit longer and only do one set of tests and lessons. Time matters relatively little to me. One of my weird quirks, as long as the end result is in sight I don't mind the wait so much...


Bottom line is I have 2 and a half weeks before the cast comes off. after that I'll be able to ride again, with enough money to do things the way I want to, with a much better budget of 1600 quid to work with after getting the money back from family I loaned to.


Perhaps starting the thread now was a bit early in hindsight...


fordforever said:
try to find a cbr that has been written of for another reason on the cheap, then youll have lots of spare parts?
Which is another option, but then if I'm going to do that I may as well go for an example seen on Gumtree for 600 quid which needs a front tyre and mudguard and swap bits from the baby to the new one and ride that... May even be able to get the insurance swapped over rather than a new policy, which will help with savings, and allow me to spend the remainder on better gear and savings. (I have money set aside for gear already, but every little helps...)



In short, I'm planning a bit too far ahead...

fordforever

263 posts

165 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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no your not, 2 weeks isn't long at all! you could always go down the route of making it into a naked bike? with a single headlight?
dose it still start and ride?

phatgixer

4,988 posts

275 months

Wednesday 19th June 2013
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CBR JGWRR said:
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phatgixer said:
CBR, have you got a full unrestricted licence?
Nope, sadly. booked in for it, took Mod 1 but circumstances changed and I missed the chance to get in before the regs went to the new system, and I would rather do the test once at 24 via DAS than do it twice but get onto big bikes sooner...

As said, I will get a big bike one day. Probably April 2017...

Think of it as 4 years worth of saving up.
Ahhh, I see smile That makes sense.

Stop faffing about and get it done!!! biggrin

Sorry to get on your case when probably a bit tender smile

y2blade

56,296 posts

241 months

Wednesday 19th June 2013
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PM'd you
smile