Are those 3 legged oil filter tools any good?
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Typically a filter should be torqued to around 13nm but I've seen bikes like the f zx6r up to 20 nm you could probably get it out by hand
Have you tried a normal filter wrench tool? They are pretty universal
Failing that drill a pilot hole in the filter and ram a screwdriver in then turn the screwdriver and put the wrench in by hand
13-15 nm is generally the same torque you'd put on a bottle of irn Bru easily done by hand
Have you tried a normal filter wrench tool? They are pretty universal
Failing that drill a pilot hole in the filter and ram a screwdriver in then turn the screwdriver and put the wrench in by hand
13-15 nm is generally the same torque you'd put on a bottle of irn Bru easily done by hand
Pick up large flatty screwdriver, hammer it through filter with large hammer 
turn, pull out screwdriver hammer through, repeat again until you can loosen by hand.
For putting new one on, as tight as possible with a dry hand is plenty of torque.
Have practiced this on many cars and bikes over the years, never any problem.
turn, pull out screwdriver hammer through, repeat again until you can loosen by hand.For putting new one on, as tight as possible with a dry hand is plenty of torque.
Have practiced this on many cars and bikes over the years, never any problem.
The three legged ones are good, they have no "give" in them like a strap so are much better for tight filters.
If the filter is really, really tight they will just crush it but that's unusual and even then you just fire a screwdriver through it.
I think they are much better that a strap and more useful on a bike as you don't have the room very often.
BTW the best one to get is a Sykes-Pickavant one but the cheaper ones are fine.
If the filter is really, really tight they will just crush it but that's unusual and even then you just fire a screwdriver through it.
I think they are much better that a strap and more useful on a bike as you don't have the room very often.
BTW the best one to get is a Sykes-Pickavant one but the cheaper ones are fine.
I use the specific 'socket' type filter tool, the Suzuki one fits all models for examole, then you can use a normal ratchet to remove it. Friendly with your local dealer? They may lend you one.
Id check for the tightening torque or guidance given by the manufacturer, get that one wrong just once and you could easily up end with a broken bike and self.
Id check for the tightening torque or guidance given by the manufacturer, get that one wrong just once and you could easily up end with a broken bike and self.
podman said:
I use the specific 'socket' type filter tool, the Suzuki one fits all models for examole, then you can use a normal ratchet to remove it. Friendly with your local dealer? They may lend you one.
Id check for the tightening torque or guidance given by the manufacturer, get that one wrong just once and you could easily up end with a broken bike and self.
As hard as you can get it on by hand (within reason, don't burst a pile) is all that's needed. Any tighter you will never get the bugger off. Remember a wee smear of clean oil on the seal.Id check for the tightening torque or guidance given by the manufacturer, get that one wrong just once and you could easily up end with a broken bike and self.
GTIR said:
What a pointless tool!
Why? If your implying that hammering a screwdriver through the filter is fine, it's not really. For a start you might damage the thread on the stub and this tool also save oil pissing up the shaft of the screwdriver. I should know I must have change thousands of oil filters over the years.GTIR said:
What a pointless tool!
(I'm not calling the op useless.)
But you're thinking it right? (I'm not calling the op useless.)
Due to duff back I'm basically looking for a simple solution here rather than being bent over double swearing a lot (I know that's -10 man points). Screwdriver option is out for the same reason the strap is, very limited access. I could get it in but wouldn't be able to turn it much. So that leaves some tool to go on the front and be used with a ratchet plus extension through the downpipes.
Luckily there's no major hurry, this Christmas thing seems to be getting in the way of enjoying things!
Cheers,
Rob
B19GRR said:
This sort of thing?
Or do they just make a mess of things too?
Need to do the oil on the Fazer but the filter is a being a bugger, got a K&N with nut on to replace it though, at least the future is rosy
Cheers,
Rob
Only thing i ever had and always worked a treat for me on cars or bikes Or do they just make a mess of things too?
Need to do the oil on the Fazer but the filter is a being a bugger, got a K&N with nut on to replace it though, at least the future is rosy
Cheers,
Rob
Ritchie335is said:
GTIR said:
What a pointless tool!
Why? If your implying that hammering a screwdriver through the filter is fine, it's not really. For a start you might damage the thread on the stub and this tool also save oil pissing up the shaft of the screwdriver. I should know I must have change thousands of oil filters over the years.Where did I say about using a screwdriver to punch a hole through?
You only do it once and I did that in the 80's.
If you must use a screwdriver then a little tap on the rim will undo it.
B19GRR said:
GTIR said:
What a pointless tool!
(I'm not calling the op useless.)
But you're thinking it right? (I'm not calling the op useless.)
Due to duff back I'm basically looking for a simple solution here rather than being bent over double swearing a lot (I know that's -10 man points). Screwdriver option is out for the same reason the strap is, very limited access. I could get it in but wouldn't be able to turn it much. So that leaves some tool to go on the front and be used with a ratchet plus extension through the downpipes.
Luckily there's no major hurry, this Christmas thing seems to be getting in the way of enjoying things!
Cheers,
Rob
GTIR said:
Ritchie335is said:
GTIR said:
What a pointless tool!
Why? If your implying that hammering a screwdriver through the filter is fine, it's not really. For a start you might damage the thread on the stub and this tool also save oil pissing up the shaft of the screwdriver. I should know I must have change thousands of oil filters over the years.Where did I say about using a screwdriver to punch a hole through?
You only do it once and I did that in the 80's.
If you must use a screwdriver then a little tap on the rim will undo it.
and you would rather use a hammer and screwdriver than the correct tool that costs a tenner for the job?
Ritchie335is said:
GTIR said:
Ritchie335is said:
GTIR said:
What a pointless tool!
Why? If your implying that hammering a screwdriver through the filter is fine, it's not really. For a start you might damage the thread on the stub and this tool also save oil pissing up the shaft of the screwdriver. I should know I must have change thousands of oil filters over the years.Where did I say about using a screwdriver to punch a hole through?
You only do it once and I did that in the 80's.
If you must use a screwdriver then a little tap on the rim will undo it.
and you would rather use a hammer and screwdriver than the correct tool that costs a tenner for the job?
My original post said those tools are crap.
My second post was in response to your post accusing me of mentioning screwdrivers, which I made no comment on, I then made a comment that if I were to use said screwdriver a tap would work.
Normally I've got the right tools for the job.
In my experience a chain filter remover is the only sensible tool for the job.
Trust me. If you've ever tried removing filters from any BL or Ford car from the 70's a Clio would seem like child's play.
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