Cat B advice
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m9rko

Original Poster:

121 posts

129 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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Can anyone in know know please point me in the right direction... There's a lot of conflicting comments online (as always). Is there anything illegal about owning and using a cat B bike for track days? Engine and frame numbers are untouched. I've read some scary stories about the BIB confiscating such bikes. But other people saying it's completely legit. Please help!

Renn Sport

2,761 posts

233 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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From what I understand the Police are interested in stolen bikes. In fact they dont really give that much of a crap hence why the stolen bike market is thriving.

The CAT B classification means the bike can't go back on the road. Tracks aren't public roads.

However saying this I would make sure I have the documentation for the bike to prove is a legit bike thats CAT B. I would also get the frame and forks checked by somone like Motoliner to ensure the bike is correct and not bent.

Best of luck.

andburg

8,581 posts

193 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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Providing you leave the frame number and engine number on I can't see an issue as they can easily then be checked against PNC records by plod.


m9rko

Original Poster:

121 posts

129 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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Engine and frame numbers all intact, I have an HPI report which shows the bike is not stolen. It's just I've read people saying plod have turned up and confiscated cat B's, and also that they should never have been sold on by the insurance companies, should have been crushed etc. But there's so much conflicting information, I can't work out the truth in it all!

Jakg

3,962 posts

192 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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It's not illegal to return a Cat B to the road - it's just an insurance classification. But it'll be difficult to find someone who'll sell one to a regular joe.

Andy XRV

3,913 posts

204 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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As far as I'm aware a CATB bike can only be bought for spares and the frame/chassis must be destroyed once the spares have been removed. This is certainly the case when buying from Copart. I'm not licensed to buy CATB bikes from Copart but I can buy through a third party. But even then the chassis & frame remains the property of the third party and once the spares have been removed they get crushed. But just like the brand new bikes from Laguna that were supposed to be destroyed following the floods in Maidstone I'm sure a lot find there way back into the market.

As usual Mr Loon is the font of all knowledge on this.



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Edited by Andy XRV on Friday 7th August 13:00

Drawweight

3,497 posts

140 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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Nothing illegal about it at all.

The classification of damaged vehicles was voluntarily set up by the insurance companies and as such there should be no problem at all using one on the track.


LoonR1

26,988 posts

201 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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Lots of confusion as always.

A Cat B bike should not be sold on as a whole. It can only be broken for parts. This is voluntary bit backed up by contract law. There is no specific criminal law issue.

If you get one for track, then it must have all its numbers intact. If they are defaced in any way then walk away. There is no legal reason for them to be defaced in any way. The police will take these.

Even if all this is OK then I'd still be worried as a bike is a Cat B for a reason and should take more damage than a C or D to get there. An insurer is saying that there's no way it wants to repair it doe to the level of damage. If you feel comfortable taking a bike on track which will be worked much harder than it ever was or would be on the road then that's your call.

Personally I'd walk away unless I knew exactly how it became a Cat B and had given it a thorough going over.

m9rko

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121 posts

129 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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I do know the exact reason for the cat B, and 100% happy the bike is straight and safe. I know the seller, and when viewing the bike the other day, he showed me the snapped steering damper lug which has been welded back on. Thing is, if I ever sold it on, other potential buyers will not know this, and that's my concern - that it'll be very hard to shift on if I ever decide to.

Yazza54

20,224 posts

205 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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It's just not worth the potential nightmares. Plenty of track bikes out there.

m9rko

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121 posts

129 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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I hate making sensible decisions....... Just turned it down, got something else in the pipeline instead. Thanks for all the info guys