Bike - Red traffic light question
Bike - Red traffic light question
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Davel

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8,982 posts

274 months

Thursday 10th February 2005
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You're riding along on a sweeping left hander, on a dual carraigeway, and approaching a set of traffic lights, which starts to change as you approach. Only doing 40 - 50.

As you start to break, using the rear break, the back wheel starts to slide out on the greasy road surface.

It may have been diesel or oil - not honestly sure

The options are that you continue to break and risk coming a cropper, or you carry on through the lights as they change to red (and risk a photo etc) and ride out of the slide.

I chose the latter - which would you do and would this be a defence if you trip a red light camera?

Couldn't decide on whether to pst in bike banter or speed, plod etc - sorry if wrong one...

bikerkeith

794 posts

280 months

Thursday 10th February 2005
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I would suggest doing 40-50 when approaching lights amounts to excessive speed. It leaves nothing in reserve in case the road surface is slippery, which is just what happened to you.
In the interests of self-preservation, in your case I would carry on (the chances of getting a fine are probably cheaper and certainly less painful than scraping you and the bike along the tarmac).

Davel

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8,982 posts

274 months

Thursday 10th February 2005
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I would agree but the road conditions were good and grip generally was not a problem. The weather was dry and fine on that day.

I'd actually eased off from 60'ish, as I was approaching the lights and was prepared to stop if needed.

Hadn't reckoned on the slippery patch though....

Guess it's wait and see time then

matt 74

245 posts

273 months

Thursday 10th February 2005
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It is certainly some kind of defence - it is going to be a case of getting the magistrates to believe it.

jvaughan

6,025 posts

299 months

Friday 11th February 2005
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using the rear brake !!! .. Thats asking for trouble !

Personally, I would have prepared to stop and gone down the gearbox... but given the fact I wasnt there, no doubt you acted as safely as you could.... If it goes to court, turn up and tell the tale. a fine is a damn side cheaper than an off.

>> Edited by jvaughan on Friday 11th February 09:36

Davel

Original Poster:

8,982 posts

274 months

Friday 11th February 2005
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Still getting used to the new bike.

The front break lever activates the ABS and splits breaking to both front & rear. The rear brake pedal just brakes the rear.

I was slowing down at that stage and not stopping, until the lights actually changed. I had dropped down a few gears too and tend to do this to reduce speed anyway.

At that time and noticing the slide, I decided to carry on rather than brake harder more.

Any way - I'll just watch the post now...

Do you know if there is a delay on these cameras at all, or do they activate immediately the light changes to red?

Mad Dave

7,158 posts

279 months

Friday 11th February 2005
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Did the camera flash?

Davel

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8,982 posts

274 months

Friday 11th February 2005
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Didn't notice any flash.

Mad Dave

7,158 posts

279 months

Friday 11th February 2005
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What are you worried about then?

Nickccc

1,682 posts

264 months

Friday 11th February 2005
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just a question, you didn't knock down a couple of gears and let the clutch out at the same time as the slide by any chance? not questioning your riding, thinking out loud more.

Davel

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8,982 posts

274 months

Saturday 12th February 2005
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No just down one gear at a time, using the clutch each time and allowing the engine to brake.

The slide was on actual braking.


Oh and didn't realise that red light cameras flashed too - maybe got away with it then...

>> Edited by Davel on Saturday 12th February 11:35