Ducati Scrambler - Owners? Any other bikes to consider
Ducati Scrambler - Owners? Any other bikes to consider
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garylythgoe

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831 posts

253 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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Are there any Ducati Scrambler owners here?

Anyone that's ridden one and got some feedback etc?

It's my Mod2 this week, and I'm trying not to get too carried away, but I'm very drawn to a Ducati Scrambler as my first bike.

I'm not hugely interested in a sports bike right now, and quite fancy the naked type thing which I can tinker with.

Other bikes I've considered:-
-Yamaha XSR700
-Ducati 797 Monster
-Triumph Street Triple

I'm after something with a lower seat height, which is quite important for me at 5ft 7. I think the XSR700 is a bit tall for me looking at the specs.

I sat on a Ducati Scrambler at the weekend (Full Throttle variant), and it felt great at 790mm seat height.

I was looking at these as a new purchase, as the deals seem really good, but I'd be open to something older but my knowledge is somewhat limited on bikes and I'm slowly learning.

Just looking for some feedback in general on the Ducati Scrambler, and to see if there's any other suggestions I might have missed!

Thanks

Janluke

3,123 posts

189 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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MT07- lower, cheaper than the xsr but same engine

Z650- improved ER6

Both look a little more modern than the Ducati but you're less likely to grow out of them than the Scrambler

Globs

13,847 posts

262 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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Saw a few at the weekend and a neighbour has one.

He got the 400 and says perhaps he should have got the 800 but he does like it.
Lovely bikes, lots of customisable bits, they can look quite different to each other, don't think you can go far wrong but you may wish to wrap the exhaust pipe that goes near your leg in the summer.

cebica

69 posts

233 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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I test rode the 400 at Ducati Cambridge and my friend test rode the 803. The scramblers were a lot of fun around the back roads but the 400 is dog slow (we were there to look at/ride Panigales that day) so even as a first bike think you would get bored quickly on the 400 and would steer you towards the 803.

Have you looked at Triumphs retro range, both air and newer water cooled?

garylythgoe

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831 posts

253 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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Thanks for the feedback so far.

I would definitely be going for the 803cc model.

I guess I don't want to get bored of my first bike too quickly.
Is 75hp on a 186kg Scrambler going to keep me entertained for a couple of years?

I'm off to look at Yamahas and Triumphs next weekend.

Eventually I'll look to add a bonkers sports bike to the stable, but I just fancy having something a bit more cruiser/retro and getting some valuable road experience.

I just want to avoid buying something which I'll get bored of really quickly, but without going near something bananas to start.

jackh707

2,132 posts

187 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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Street triple

Enough said

garylythgoe

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831 posts

253 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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ash73 said:
I have a Scrambler FT. It's fun to ride, air cooled engine sounds good even with stock exhaust, and has good torque but only revs to 8k, small size suits someone vertically challenged, and looks great (subjective). Some negatives; clutch went after only 1500 miles but replaced under warranty, servicing is expensive, and the seat is uncomfortable.

A mate has the Street Triple and I'd say it's a better bike, as it's a bit more sporty.
As a first bike, would you recommend it, or would you er towards something a bit more sporty?

The 797 Monster shares the same engine as the Scrambler, so I guess the same comparisons could be made.

What are the service costs like?

Street Triple looks to have an 820mm seat height, but I will go visit to sit on one.

tjlazer

875 posts

205 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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ash73 said:
garylythgoe said:
As a first bike, would you recommend it, or would you er towards something a bit more sporty?

The 797 Monster shares the same engine as the Scrambler, so I guess the same comparisons could be made.

What are the service costs like?

Street Triple looks to have an 820mm seat height, but I will go visit to sit on one.
Either would be fine as a first bike. The main decision really is what sort of engine you like; torquey v-twin, somewhere-inbetween triple or revvy IL4. I like the FT because it's physically small and easy to maneuver, and it's got plenty of go, but I'm hankering after a revvy IL4 supersport. The grass is always greener...!

Servicing a Ducati seems to cost double any other bike. One other negative while I'm thinking about it, the tank is quite small (130 miles). But I don't want to put you off it's a good bike they all have pros and cons.

Have a browse here:
http://www.scramblerforum.com
Get the non-R street triple and the seat is 800mm. It's much more of a serious machine than the scrambler, it can do more of everything and second hand represents real value. Lots of them coming up for sale with the launch of the new bike too. I love the sound of a vtwin in rude exhaust form but the street triple just kicks its ass for performance, ride and fun. The intake noise is also pretty awesome.

Globs

13,847 posts

262 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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ash73 said:
and the seat is uncomfortable.
There seems to be a variety of seats available so some may be better than others.
To me it's a more macho version of the VanVan, good in sand and on tours I'd suspect.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

243 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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Street Twin...seat height fairly low and goes well enough...and looks better.

shoestring7

6,196 posts

277 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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CaptainSlow said:
Street Twin...seat height fairly low and goes well enough...and looks better.
+1.

Sounds much closer to what you're looking for than the Street Triple.


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WaferThinHam

1,680 posts

161 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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Don't get an XSR700, they're cheap, bouncy and pretty slow. They're ok on fuel though.

Street Triple or a Street Twin/Cup is nicer, but I'm not sure the built quality is there on the Street Twin if I'm honest. It feels solid enough, I just have my concerns about the quality of the actual metal. Whereas the XSR700 is cheap and you can tell by the standard of plastics and suspension on it. Best thing about the XSR700 is the engine, so I'd buy an MT-07 or Tracer and spend the money sorting the suspension. Actually, what I'd do is just buy a Street Triple and hope it didn't get nicked!

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

243 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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MCN give it 4.5/5. I took one out last year and it went well enough.

Sebo

2,180 posts

257 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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shout CCR32 your thread is here !

moto_traxport

4,265 posts

252 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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If you are short don't just look at the seat height on specs, go and sit on one in a showroom.

Seat width is almost as important, as is how high up the bike carries it's weight etc etc

Gunk

3,302 posts

190 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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garylythgoe said:
Thanks for the feedback so far.

I would definitely be going for the 803cc model.

I guess I don't want to get bored of my first bike too quickly.
Is 75hp on a 186kg Scrambler going to keep me entertained for a couple of years?

I'm off to look at Yamahas and Triumphs next weekend.

Eventually I'll look to add a bonkers sports bike to the stable, but I just fancy having something a bit more cruiser/retro and getting some valuable road experience.

I just want to avoid buying something which I'll get bored of really quickly, but without going near something bananas to start.
You'll be bored within a year, nice bike but really only designed for pottering down to the pub and posing.

garylythgoe

Original Poster:

831 posts

253 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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Chaps, some excellent responses. Thank you very much from this biker noobie!

I'm off to the Triumph/Yamaha dealer on Sat in Peterborough, so will be good to get my eyeballs on some other things.

I've also been looking at the Ducati 821 Monster, it's got a slightly lower seat height (785mm) and isn't actually as powerful as I thought it would be. This could be a decent intro to riding too? Especially as it has different driving modes too.

What was the insurance like on the Street Triple as a first bike?

I absolutely love those BMW R nine T things too, the grey with the brown seat is dreamy.

I guess I'm trying to be a bit sensible, whilst still learning about the whole range of bikes available and I don't want to buy something I'll regret.

MOBB

4,594 posts

158 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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All of the bikes you mention are good bikes, test ride all of them and see which floats your boat.

My choice would probably be the Street Triple as it is genuinely brilliant. But I get the appeal of the Scrambler.

Do some research into Ducati servicing intervals and costs just so you have your eyes open, I had a Streetfighter a few years back and it was fairly steep to service.

MOBB

4,594 posts

158 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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Also, not everyone likes a twin engine - my brother in law had a Hypermotard and hated it, they can certainly be "lumpy" compared to triples and fours, but to many that is part of the appeal!

garylythgoe

Original Poster:

831 posts

253 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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Ok ok, point taken on the seat height.

The reason I mention it, is I sat on my mates GSXR 750 a while back now, and I remember it felt too tall at the time.

I'm 32/33, and obviously I'll be a new rider living near Cambridge. I'll do some online quotes this week I think.

The only thing I don't quite like from pictures is the weird double headlights on the Triumph STR. Looks a bit... unresolved? to my odd eyeballs anyway.