Brewery bans bikers from Pub
Brewery bans bikers from Pub
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tezzer

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984 posts

217 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yo...

Time for a boycott of Sam Smith's pubs perhaps ?

I was used to this kind of discrimination back in the 70's thought all that had gone in these enlightened times...........

anonymous-user

85 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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They're st pubs (in my experience) anyway.

But yes, I shalln't be visiting from this point on.

telecat

8,528 posts

272 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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The Owner is well Known in Tadcaster and the surrounding area. Not a nice man is the mildest description I have heard. He interferes as if he is a Feudal landland. For example He wouldn't allow the replacement footbridge on his land when the Bridge went down. He also didn't want the constructio improved as thgey rebuilt it.

Prof Prolapse

16,163 posts

221 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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How long before his windows go through do you think? biglaugh

Daft bd.



anonymous-user

85 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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Can't believe that still goes on. It was rife in the 80's, but I assumed those days were long gone

tezzer

Original Poster:

984 posts

217 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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I went on the Sam Smiths website, to voice my complaint. However, it's old fashioned snail mail from them.

Looks like they are stuck in the pre internet era, in more ways than one.

black-k1

12,808 posts

260 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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While I have no interest in going into this pub I find it infuriating that it's illegal to ban whole groups because of their race, colour, religion, gender, age, sexual orientation etc. but it's apparently acceptable to ban a whole group of people based on the vehicle they use.

I support a publicans right to ban individuals but this is simple discrimination.

bad company

21,920 posts

297 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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There's a bit more information on the ownership here:-

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Smith_Brewe...

As others have said I thought this kind of thinking died out in the 1970/80's.

fergus

6,430 posts

306 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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telecat said:
The Owner is well Known in Tadcaster and the surrounding area. Not a nice man is the mildest description I have heard. He interferes as if he is a Feudal landland. For example He wouldn't allow the replacement footbridge on his land when the Bridge went down. He also didn't want the constructio improved as thgey rebuilt it.
+1

He acts as if he owns the town (although he does own most of the land....). I suspect if this were to be challenged in court, it would not be upheld.

bad company

21,920 posts

297 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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fergus said:
+1

He acts as if he owns the town (although he does own most of the land....). I suspect if this were to be challenged in court, it would not be upheld.
There is no legal basis for a challenge. Apart from race, sex, sexual orientation and some other exceptions they can discriminate against whoever they wish.

sjtscott

4,215 posts

262 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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So this is one pub potentially tarnishing the chain? We have them in London and they're generally popular because they are one if not the only place to get a cheap(er) pint - whilst its not the best beer in the world its far from the worst.
I guess I have a different perspective in London in that when I goto the pub the bike stays at home and they don't exactly have private parking either.

For me this would be treated in the same way as less than friendly petrol stations if this happened in my local area, I'd tell each and every person and share it on social media to ensure that persons business is as significantly impacted as possible.
Banning everyone based purely on the vehicle they use is discrimination of the worst order illegal or not.
Can you imagine the vice versa approach (idiotic business sense too) Pub banning all car drivers from being served. How long before that made headline news?

Edited by sjtscott on Friday 14th July 10:43

tezzer

Original Poster:

984 posts

217 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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To be fair, this has made headline news, on the BBC at least.

We are organizing a night out, next week in Beverley, and invariably set off from Nellies (The White Horse) which is a Sam Smith's pub. As we're all bikers guess where we won't be meeting next Friday evening ?

hashtag

1,116 posts

185 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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This is the chap who has also banned customers swearing in his pubs.

He visits the pubs and if he hears any swearing the manager is sacked on the spot.


crofty1984

17,064 posts

235 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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hashtag said:
This is the chap who has also banned customers swearing in his pubs.

He visits the pubs and if he hears any swearing the manager is sacked on the spot.
What a .

Dan_1981

18,124 posts

230 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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The actual pub in question is actually pretty nice.

Lovely setting.

anonymous-user

85 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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hashtag said:
This is the chap who has also banned customers swearing in his pubs.

He visits the pubs and if he hears any swearing the manager is sacked on the spot.
Surely a swear word does not constitute summary dismissal by gross misconduct and leaves him wide open for a tribunal?

I'd like to see that being enforceable: sure, abusive swearing at customers would be an issue, but in a back room?

mx5tom

573 posts

204 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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bgunn said:
Surely a swear word does not constitute summary dismissal by gross misconduct and leaves him wide open for a tribunal?

I'd like to see that being enforceable: sure, abusive swearing at customers would be an issue, but in a back room?
I read that as in if a customer swears, the manager is sacked... wobble

anonymous-user

85 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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mx5tom said:
I read that as in if a customer swears, the manager is sacked... wobble
Even better. What a .

I now know a new game: travel to each Sam shyte pub, and swear like a fking trooper! Before he knows it, they'll all have no manager...

Gunk

3,302 posts

190 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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I quite like being part of a "banned group" I've always liked being subversive.

Loyly

18,293 posts

190 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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I've heard his pubs are all full of soft stes who drink IPA. fk 'em.