Done a 1:34 at Cartagena
Done a 1:34 at Cartagena
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Bikesalot

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1,890 posts

189 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Title is wrong - it was a 1:38


I didn't but a client of mine did on his 675. Probably why he's a UK club 2017 Champion.

How have any of you racer chaps generated more income to make the jump from club racing to being able to tackle some BSB wildcards as well as defending your club title, short of looking a bit silly and begging for anything and everything?



Edited by Bikesalot on Tuesday 28th November 12:52

Gavia

7,627 posts

122 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Get some sponsorship.

Don’t do the gofundme bks, as it’s pathetic.

Pick a series to compete in and focus on that. If he wants to defend his title then do that exclusively, or move to BSB support paddock for the whole season exclusively.

graeme4130

3,956 posts

212 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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That's properly quick, as the lap record there is only a bit quicker at 1:32.3 by Luke Mossey at this year's BSB test.

Generating sponsorship is a minefield, and you really need a load of cash to put into to get yourself noticed on the bigger stage before any of the tradition sponsoring companies with a reasonable sponsorship fund would even look at you.

Racing BSB Superstock 600's is bloody expensive too, and to get a reasonably competitive ride in the championship is going to cost something like a minimum of £50-60k+ per year that he'd need to bring to the team

Bikesalot

Original Poster:

1,890 posts

189 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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graeme4130 said:
That's properly quick, as the lap record there is only a bit quicker at 1:32.3 by Luke Mossey at this year's BSB test.

Generating sponsorship is a minefield, and you really need a load of cash to put into to get yourself noticed on the bigger stage before any of the tradition sponsoring companies with a reasonable sponsorship fund would even look at you.

Racing BSB Superstock 600's is bloody expensive too, and to get a reasonably competitive ride in the championship is going to cost something like a minimum of £50-60k+ per year that he'd need to bring to the team
Just realised i've lied - it was a 1:38.

Agree it's a minefield. That's an interesting figure of 50-60k!

curlie467

7,650 posts

232 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Never has a thread been so disappointing. laugh

Biker's Nemesis

41,486 posts

239 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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A mate of mine David did a 1.43 on his 10 year old R6 in march this year, he would have been into double figures beer wise the night before and he's nearly 52 years old.

Is that a good time for an overweight still drunk old man?

Here he is on the right 8 hours before a TD at Donington back in July


poo at Paul's

14,621 posts

206 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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pah, I could do 1.38 in the Touran!

Birky_41

4,659 posts

215 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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I recognise that picture as I was just on the other table! He was sooooo drunk!

I did Cartagena last month on a 12 year old 750 and could only muster 1.45s so the drunken northern was quick! I thought I was doing OK

As for the client... That's a phenomenonal pace but knowing mason law very well the bsb cost of 50-60k is bang on, if not more

You need a decent dad, family member or just be very lucky to be in the right place at the right time. It's not cheap

Atlas 12v

362 posts

240 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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https://youtu.be/KHAhfLwKIy0

Chapter and verse of BSB team costs.

Gavia

7,627 posts

122 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Atlas 12v said:
https://youtu.be/KHAhfLwKIy0

Chapter and verse of BSB team costs.
That’s full fat BSB not the support race teams. It’s a long journey to there unless you’re extremely talented / lucky / connected.

Biker's Nemesis

41,486 posts

239 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Birky_41 said:
I recognise that picture as I was just on the other table! He was sooooo drunk!

I did Cartagena last month on a 12 year old 750 and could only muster 1.45s so the drunken northern was quick! I thought I was doing OK

As for the client... That's a phenomenonal pace but knowing mason law very well the bsb cost of 50-60k is bang on, if not more

You need a decent dad, family member or just be very lucky to be in the right place at the right time. It's not cheap
He was in a bad way the next day, mind, so was I. hehe

Forgot his R6 was a 2006 so his was 11 years old, he blew the motor at Cartagena and had just picked his brand new R6 up on the day we met you at the Hotel. You'll have to come with us lot when we do a TD abroad, we will look after you and not encourage you to get drunk. We can even teach you how to speak Northumbrian.

Gavia

7,627 posts

122 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Biker's Nemesis said:
He was in a bad way the next day, mind, so was I. hehe

Forgot his R6 was a 2006 so his was 11 years old, he blew the motor at Cartagena and had just picked his brand new R6 up on the day we met you at the Hotel. You'll have to come with us lot when we do a TD abroad, we will look after you and not encourage you to get drunk. We can even teach you how to speak Northumbrian.
How you ride is beyond me. Me, hebegb and McKeann drank beer and ate burgers til silly o’clock after our race on the Saturday. No way I could’ve ridden the next day

Biker's Nemesis

41,486 posts

239 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Gavia said:
How you ride is beyond me. Me, hebegb and McKeann drank beer and ate burgers til silly o’clock after our race on the Saturday.

No way I could’ve ridden the next day
I've seen the light after not drinking at Jerez, I'm not kidding it was like a whole new world to me, I can't remember ever feeling as fresh or enjoying myself. Us lot when we're happy drink to make ourselves even happier if that makes sense.

It's taken over 50 years to realize I was wrong.


Biker's Nemesis

41,486 posts

239 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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I was even listening to music that makes me happy before going on track, this is one of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBLYwVYCcCM

graeme4130

3,956 posts

212 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Birky_41 said:
I recognise that picture as I was just on the other table! He was sooooo drunk!

I did Cartagena last month on a 12 year old 750 and could only muster 1.45s so the drunken northern was quick! I thought I was doing OK

As for the client... That's a phenomenonal pace but knowing mason law very well the bsb cost of 50-60k is bang on, if not more

You need a decent dad, family member or just be very lucky to be in the right place at the right time. It's not cheap
Mason got on a good team at a decent price because he's Mason Law, and they knew he'd be right up there.
I'd imagine if Joe bloggs fast club racer wanted the same seat on a sharp end competitive bike, they'd be asked to pay a lot more than that. The WD40 bike he had in SS600 was possibly the best bike out there and that seat won't be cheap.
The only prices I've seen recently are mid table Stock1000 bikes, and even then you're looking at £2-3k per race minimum
Top level bike racing hasn't yet got to the silly numbers that car racing is at, but it's catching up and won't be far behind for long.
If there's riders that can bring the money to the team, teams, of course, are going to snap it up

Steve Bass

10,756 posts

264 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Biker's Nemesis said:
Gavia said:
How you ride is beyond me. Me, hebegb and McKeann drank beer and ate burgers til silly o’clock after our race on the Saturday.

No way I could’ve ridden the next day
I've seen the light after not drinking at Jerez, I'm not kidding it was like a whole new world to me, I can't remember ever feeling as fresh or enjoying myself. Us lot when we're happy drink to make ourselves even happier if that makes sense.

It's taken over 50 years to realize I was wrong.
I did it once. TD weekend, and got hammered on the Saturday night.
3rd lap of wobbling around on the Sunday morning being surprised by every corner that appeared in front of me was enough to make me pack up and go home. After a 4 hour kip.
And a kebab.

Biker's Nemesis

41,486 posts

239 months

Thursday 30th November 2017
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Steve Bass said:
I did it once. TD weekend, and got hammered on the Saturday night.
3rd lap of wobbling around on the Sunday morning being surprised by every corner that appeared in front of me was enough to make me pack up and go home. After a 4 hour kip.
And a kebab.
I'm not saying I will never have a couple of pints the night before but it will only be a couple, shandy if I can get away with it, Donington was an eye opener, I was nearly taken out in someone else's accident half way through the first lap of the first session, I didn't have time to react and just went through the middle of bike and rider.

Plus I just felt I'll all day and still had a banging headache all day.

It doesn't help getting older, I can't cope now with a hangover like I can't drive from home in the early hours and then ride on track.



Fleegle

16,710 posts

207 months

Thursday 30th November 2017
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Biker's Nemesis said:
I'm not saying I will never have a couple of pints the night before but it will only be a couple, shandy if I can get away with it, Donington was an eye opener, I was nearly taken out in someone else's accident half way through the first lap of the first session, I didn't have time to react and just went through the middle of bike and rider.

Plus I just felt I'll all day and still had a banging headache all day.

It doesn't help getting older, I can't cope now with a hangover like I can't drive from home in the early hours and then ride on track.
Shandy drinking northern pooftah

mckeann

2,996 posts

260 months

Thursday 30th November 2017
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I'm an absolute lightweight and don't function at all after a heavy night, so. I way am I ruining my tracktime by drinking too much the night before. Thankfully I can still enjoy myself without drink and I'm thick skinned to the peer pressure so it's never an issue for me.

graeme4130

3,956 posts

212 months

Thursday 30th November 2017
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mckeann said:
I'm an absolute lightweight and don't function at all after a heavy night, so. I way am I ruining my tracktime by drinking too much the night before. Thankfully I can still enjoy myself without drink and I'm thick skinned to the peer pressure so it's never an issue for me.
Yeah, same here. I think at the ripe old age of 41, I've started to realise my days of getting smashed and then functioning the next day are well over.
On Euro's I'll normally have a couple at the track after riding, and then maybe one more back at the hotel, but anything more and I'm not going to be riding much the next morning and I'm normally a keen morning person who gets up too early and likes a couple of strong coffee's before I'm really awake