New speed limits for France
Discussion
Copied from another forum I frequent. Sorry it's in French!
http://www.lepoint.fr/automobile/securite/80-km-h-...
It appears that the national speed limit for all roads without a barrier (pretty much all the "fun" roads then!) will be reduced from 90kmh to 80kmh during 2018.
While I have seen a number of UK bikers ignoring the current 90kmh limit (obviously, I observe it rigorously
) my real concern is that the limits at which the fine moves from being a minor irritant to a major financial commitment also lowers, and that getting caught at more than 160kmh (100mph) will result in confiscation of your bike! 
Ouch!
http://www.lepoint.fr/automobile/securite/80-km-h-...
It appears that the national speed limit for all roads without a barrier (pretty much all the "fun" roads then!) will be reduced from 90kmh to 80kmh during 2018.
While I have seen a number of UK bikers ignoring the current 90kmh limit (obviously, I observe it rigorously
) my real concern is that the limits at which the fine moves from being a minor irritant to a major financial commitment also lowers, and that getting caught at more than 160kmh (100mph) will result in confiscation of your bike! Ouch!Andybow said:
Surely you’ve got to be caught first,
Of course.Andybow said:
I go away every year and never see any police,
As do I, multiple times, I do see Police though.Andybow said:
France is still the same, The law changes but the French themselves don’t give a toss so as long as you don’t murder anyone, you’ll be fine riding around like normal, Just careful in built up areas
I wouldn't say it's the same, it's changing. The Police I see with people pulled over seem to give a toss but they always seem to be hunting in fairly large packs.Of course risk exists but like anything it's manageable to a good degree.
Andybow said:
Surely you’ve got to be caught first, I go away every year and never see any police, France is still the same, The law changes but the French themselves don’t give a toss so as long as you don’t murder anyone, you’ll be fine riding around like normal, Just careful in built up areas
I don't think it'll be like it has been. Remember, at the same time France is "privatising" speed camera cars:https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/Speedi...
Add to that the fact that French fines can now be enforced in the UK and ...
Whats the penalty for no plate?
Quite easy on a bike to get away.
The police need to remember that they do their jobs by consent. If everybody broke a law which was enforced society, or more likely that particular law, would collapse pretty quickly.
Probably OTT in this case but an important point I think.
Quite easy on a bike to get away.
The police need to remember that they do their jobs by consent. If everybody broke a law which was enforced society, or more likely that particular law, would collapse pretty quickly.
Probably OTT in this case but an important point I think.
trickywoo said:
Whats the penalty for no plate?
Quite easy on a bike to get away.
The police need to remember that they do their jobs by consent. If everybody broke a law which was enforced society, or more likely that particular law, would collapse pretty quickly.
Probably OTT in this case but an important point I think.
That's assuming that enough people will kick up a sufficient fuss to upset the apple cart.Quite easy on a bike to get away.
The police need to remember that they do their jobs by consent. If everybody broke a law which was enforced society, or more likely that particular law, would collapse pretty quickly.
Probably OTT in this case but an important point I think.
Governments tend to get very good at judging just how far they can push without that, their survival kind of depends on it.
Although the French population can get quite militant at times I can't honestly see it happening as a result of us Brits being caught out tearing the arse out of it in their country.
exgtt said:
Used to be such an amazing place to have fun pre Euro.... France in the 80's, speed, yellow headlamps, black plates, just a memory. Damn shame, they have lost a big chunk of identity
This ^^^ . The general public have mostly capitulated. I've avoided France for road fun (bike or car) for half a dozen years now. The buzz of doing a fast flowing run on their fantastic roads 'blind' is mostly gone. Pre-running it at legal then going back and forth over it a few times isn't the same at all.
Onward, upward & elsewhere!
moto_traxport said:
exgtt said:
Used to be such an amazing place to have fun pre Euro.... France in the 80's, speed, yellow headlamps, black plates, just a memory. Damn shame, they have lost a big chunk of identity
This ^^^ . The general public have mostly capitulated. I've avoided France for road fun (bike or car) for half a dozen years now. The buzz of doing a fast flowing run on their fantastic roads 'blind' is mostly gone. Pre-running it at legal then going back and forth over it a few times isn't the same at all.
Onward, upward & elsewhere!
100% fact. They drive like pussies now, the same as here.
And in the 110/130s 40kph over can be a licence confiscation, although there is a 5% rounding down so in a 110 it would be 158 to be in bother
Andybow said:
It is changing like most things, But rural riding imo is still fine, France is a big old country and where I enjoy riding, southern Alps, Pyrenees, Provence etc are largely very quiet with bugger all people there, Anyone that gets caught on the ferry runs is asking for trouble.
Spot on, compare any of those regions with something like the cat n fiddle, the frustration of the TT or any popular UK biking road with cameras everywhere, there's still miles and miles of perfect roads , next to no traffic on them with stunning scenery and no police presence, its a headline and im sure some people will fall foul of it but in reality, it wont spoil the pleasure of a trip into France.
vonhosen said:
Andybow said:
Surely you’ve got to be caught first,
Of course.Andybow said:
I go away every year and never see any police,
As do I, multiple times, I do see Police though.Andybow said:
France is still the same, The law changes but the French themselves don’t give a toss so as long as you don’t murder anyone, you’ll be fine riding around like normal, Just careful in built up areas
I wouldn't say it's the same, it's changing. The Police I see with people pulled over seem to give a toss but they always seem to be hunting in fairly large packs.Of course risk exists but like anything it's manageable to a good degree.
moto_traxport said:
This ^^^ . The general public have mostly capitulated. I've avoided France for road fun (bike or car) for half a dozen years now.
The buzz of doing a fast flowing run on their fantastic roads 'blind' is mostly gone. Pre-running it at legal then going back and forth over it a few times isn't the same at all.
Onward, upward & elsewhere!
Croatia.The buzz of doing a fast flowing run on their fantastic roads 'blind' is mostly gone. Pre-running it at legal then going back and forth over it a few times isn't the same at all.
Onward, upward & elsewhere!
The coastal road all the way from Rijeka to Dubrovnik is something else. It's like a 700km race track, with excellent views, cheap beer and good food.
Highly recommended. Would visit again.
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