Moto Guzzi V50lll
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waynedear

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2,351 posts

198 months

Friday 16th February 2018
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Following my can you bump a shafti question :::::::
I bought it, collecting in the morning, little 500cc guzzi, not run since 2004
Boy is it rough, no key, no logbook, in Liverpool, no ignition, destroyed seat base, can't open fuel tank, exhaust held by wire, throttle not held at all, original tyres, flat and split, rear mudguard and light unit cracked and not on, ditto side panels, the list goes on.
It's been outside for a while, not seized though and it's not stolen.
It belonged to the sellers dad who passed away and left his son a couple of bikes, the story does add up as he is a long term mate of my friend who has confirmed everything.
It should be a nice project and is costing me £160 😁




no pics until collected

Gunk

3,302 posts

190 months

Friday 16th February 2018
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So you’ve bought a pile of scrap.

waynedear

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2,351 posts

198 months

Friday 16th February 2018
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Gunk said:
So you’ve bought a pile of scrap.
I am ever the optimist and see it as a blank canvas.

black-k1

12,811 posts

260 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Good luck with the restoration.

crofty1984

17,064 posts

235 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Brilliant! As long as the engine and frame aren't fked you'll be able to make that into a nice little bike.

waynedear

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2,351 posts

198 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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crofty1984 said:
Brilliant! As long as the engine and frame aren't fked you'll be able to make that into a nice little bike.
As it’s now in my lockup I can confirm that the engine seems good, fuel tank is not rusty and the frame is perfectly usable


Edited by waynedear on Saturday 17th February 13:48

catso

16,546 posts

298 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Seat aside, I expected worse.

Nice project there, be interested to see how it turns out. thumbup

crofty1984

17,064 posts

235 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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waynedear said:
crofty1984 said:
Brilliant! As long as the engine and frame aren't fked you'll be able to make that into a nice little bike.
As it’s now in my lockup I can confirm that the engine seems good, fuel tank is not rusty and the frame is perfectly usable


Edited by waynedear on Saturday 17th February 13:48
Bloody hell, I bet you'd get 160 quid if you just sold the tank! Best of look with the resto. What are your plans for it?

Pothole

34,367 posts

313 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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I like that a lot.

Janluke

3,122 posts

189 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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A female friend had one years ago and I remember it riding very well.

Looks a good partner for the Alfa

orangefzr

179 posts

106 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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100 tubes of solvol autosol later ha, but seriously though great find, what are the forks like ? Brook suspension offer a pretty good rebuild re chrome service

waynedear

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2,351 posts

198 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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I have already been offered more than I paid, as for the what am I going to do with it question, I’m not sure.
First thing is get the tank open, clean carbs, check points, work out where to join the ignition wires to get it live then hook up a battery, no wait I forgot, reconnect the throttle cables.
Then see if it runs.....
After that, well I really want a cafe racer, we’ll see.

As for the forks, one is good, as for the other, when I slid up the gaiter it was full of oil and water, I shall be investigating as soon as I knock up a stand.

catso

16,546 posts

298 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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waynedear said:
After that, well I really want a cafe racer, we’ll see.
Guzzis make great cafe racers. thumbup

As for the fork gaiters, I bought a bike many years ago with them fitted, it had been standing for a while and they were both full of water. I ended up cutting them off as they were just a water trap.

Gunk

3,302 posts

190 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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waynedear said:
After that, well I really want a cafe racer, we’ll see.
Please don’t, you’ll fk it up, they’re such a nice little bike it just deserves a simple sympathetic restoration.

orangefzr

179 posts

106 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Take pictures is my best advice with every strip down for reference

waynedear

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2,351 posts

198 months

Sunday 18th February 2018
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Gunk said:
waynedear said:
After that, well I really want a cafe racer, we’ll see.
Please don’t, you’ll fk it up, they’re such a nice little bike it just deserves a simple sympathetic restoration.
I suspected that might get a reaction smile

A guzzi cafe racer has been my dream since 1979, I will build it, use it and love it and you have my word I will not at any time be sporting a hipster beard.


kev b

2,756 posts

197 months

Sunday 18th February 2018
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My old employer had one of these twenty years ago, it had the worst gear change I have ever encountered.
We tried to improve the linkage but it was never acceptable, the engine was gutless too, so disappointing as on paper it had everything needed to make a good bike.
Put me off Guzzis for life, perhaps did me a favour?

wuckfitracing

991 posts

174 months

Sunday 18th February 2018
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I sold this 2 years ago, 1 owner from new and 10k miles. I loved the look of it but the gearchage I couldnt live with. More false neutrals than a politician.

catso

16,546 posts

298 months

Sunday 18th February 2018
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I only have experience of old Guzzi gearboxes which are definitely 'agricultural', my Lemans has a second neutral between 2nd and 3rd that it only finds if you're trying to shift quickly, so best to be firm and steady - it's not like you're going to win a superbike race and so need to get through the gears quickly anyway!

Mine's not helped by the fact that I've reversed the shift so there is a bit more to the linkage than normal. 1st gear can be tricky to select until the engine's warmed up but you get used to it and it's not like you need 1st or 2nd often anyway as it will pull from very low speeds in the higher gears.

The good thing for the OP is that they are very simple and solid mechanically so it's likely the engine will be fine, but they're easy to work on if not as they have a removable sump and so changing big ends etc. can be done easily without splitting the cases or even removing the engine from the bike.

I believe the original V-twin engine was designed for a small 3 wheeled/half-track agricultural/military vehicle...