Cbr1000rr Valve clearances.
Discussion
Any recommendations for someone near MK? it's done 16K miles. I don't know the area well.
Are the main dealers any good? I'd be prepared to take it to on yer bike if I needed to, are they ok?
I guess I'd need a hire bike if that was the case.
I could do it myself but should they need doing, I rather not take the cams out and get into all that.
I have better things to do, well until I see the £££'s
I do have little faith in normal mechanics. I did do some engineering years ago.
I'm told some garages will charge and not check. So their ability is only as good as they are keen to learn, enthusiasm I guess. I know some enthusiasts are often better, a few garages call people in for help, when they get stuck.
I took a tidy motor in to a main dealer for a cam-belt service, ok, do water pump same time.
2 miles down the road and it started getting hot, no water in the tank. Took it back. They filled it up and said it must be an air lock, it did it again. Wtf... So I look under the bonnet, leak from thermostat housing, which they had to remove to work on it. So I go back to them and tell them the problem (that they did not notice) yeah, you need a new one £260.
No I don't think so. I undo 2x m6 bolts, takes me about 30 secs. I put an o'ring in... sorted. I paid for that service, end up fixing a problem they caused, which was easy too. It was a well known local main car dealer too. I've had similar service at another with different brand.
I have it all the time at work too, I lose the will to live to some times. I have to chase people I am paying, check what they do.
Paid someone to cut a tree down, it fell through a parked trailer.... insurance job. I despair sometimes.
Oh and when I raced, I only ever had 1 DNF. Combination or stretching lifed parts and over exuberance, so not unexpected.
I saw paid teams having avoidable silly problems. Having raced, I know some race engine builders but they are more prone to want the engine on the bench. I wouldn't take an old (07) road bike to them, I'd feel a bit embarrassed. Most I know only work on competitive kit.
I don't know, maybe I am getting cynical or a bit ocd with age, but the good weather is near here.
Sorry I digress. So anyone? decent professional business to deal with? locally. Thanks.
Are the main dealers any good? I'd be prepared to take it to on yer bike if I needed to, are they ok?
I guess I'd need a hire bike if that was the case.
I could do it myself but should they need doing, I rather not take the cams out and get into all that.
I have better things to do, well until I see the £££'s
I do have little faith in normal mechanics. I did do some engineering years ago.
I'm told some garages will charge and not check. So their ability is only as good as they are keen to learn, enthusiasm I guess. I know some enthusiasts are often better, a few garages call people in for help, when they get stuck.
I took a tidy motor in to a main dealer for a cam-belt service, ok, do water pump same time.
2 miles down the road and it started getting hot, no water in the tank. Took it back. They filled it up and said it must be an air lock, it did it again. Wtf... So I look under the bonnet, leak from thermostat housing, which they had to remove to work on it. So I go back to them and tell them the problem (that they did not notice) yeah, you need a new one £260.
No I don't think so. I undo 2x m6 bolts, takes me about 30 secs. I put an o'ring in... sorted. I paid for that service, end up fixing a problem they caused, which was easy too. It was a well known local main car dealer too. I've had similar service at another with different brand.
I have it all the time at work too, I lose the will to live to some times. I have to chase people I am paying, check what they do.
Paid someone to cut a tree down, it fell through a parked trailer.... insurance job. I despair sometimes.
Oh and when I raced, I only ever had 1 DNF. Combination or stretching lifed parts and over exuberance, so not unexpected.
I saw paid teams having avoidable silly problems. Having raced, I know some race engine builders but they are more prone to want the engine on the bench. I wouldn't take an old (07) road bike to them, I'd feel a bit embarrassed. Most I know only work on competitive kit.
I don't know, maybe I am getting cynical or a bit ocd with age, but the good weather is near here.
Sorry I digress. So anyone? decent professional business to deal with? locally. Thanks.
Edited by BusLane on Monday 12th March 07:55
Yes I figured that, and was tempted but once it is in bits, if I need to start putting shims in will kick myself.. I just want to ride it.
I might trackday it after this year (as the bike is not worth too much now)
So figure get it done now and won't need too much doing for a while.
I have a Ducati, I'm a bit ott with maintenance
It also has a bit of tick on start up, maybe even when riding when cold, always has since I've had it I think... normal perhaps. Not familiar with these engines really. Was thinking have cam chain tension put in at same time for good measure.
Although I'm not sure the tick matches rpm exactly so might not be related, could be anything, the bike still starts and runs fine so not concerned about the obvious. It's my all weather hack really. It's a bit bland but it works... only when going quickly.
I can't bare to part with it as much as I'd like an RSV(4) maybe or 1299.
I might trackday it after this year (as the bike is not worth too much now)
So figure get it done now and won't need too much doing for a while.
I have a Ducati, I'm a bit ott with maintenance
It also has a bit of tick on start up, maybe even when riding when cold, always has since I've had it I think... normal perhaps. Not familiar with these engines really. Was thinking have cam chain tension put in at same time for good measure.
Although I'm not sure the tick matches rpm exactly so might not be related, could be anything, the bike still starts and runs fine so not concerned about the obvious. It's my all weather hack really. It's a bit bland but it works... only when going quickly.
I can't bare to part with it as much as I'd like an RSV(4) maybe or 1299.
Can't help with a mechanic near MK but I'm with you on the distrust.
I'd at least check them myself and know for sure what if anything needs doing.
You can then button it up and take it somewhere or if you have the luxury leave it with the air box and rocker cover off and get a mobile guy to come and do shims if needed.
I'd at least check them myself and know for sure what if anything needs doing.
You can then button it up and take it somewhere or if you have the luxury leave it with the air box and rocker cover off and get a mobile guy to come and do shims if needed.
BusLane said:
Any recommendations for someone near MK? it's done 16K miles. I don't know the area well.
Are the main dealers any good? I'd be prepared to take it to on yer bike if I needed to, are they ok?
I guess I'd need a hire bike if that was the case.
I could do it myself but should they need doing, I rather not take the cams out and get into all that.
I have better things to do, well until I see the £££'s
I do have little faith in normal mechanics. I did do some engineering years ago.
I'm told some garages will charge and not check. So there ability is only as good as they are keen to learn, enthusiasm I guess. I know some enthusiasts are often better, a few garages call people in for help, when they get stuck.
I took a motor in to a main dealer for a cam-belt, ok, do water pump same time.
2 miles down the road started getting hot, no water in tank. Took it back. Filled it up, said it must be an air leak... did it again. Wtf... So I look under the bonnet, leak from thermostat housing, which they had to remove to work on it. So go back to them... yeah, you need a new one £260.
No I don't think so. undo 2x m6 bolts, takes me about 30 secs. I put an o'ring in... sorted. I paid for that.. Well known local main car dealer at the time. Had similar service at another with different brand.
I have it all the time at work too, I lose the will to live to some times. I have to chase people I am paying, check what they do.
Paid someone to cut a tree down, it feel through a parked trailer.... insurance job. I despair sometimes.
Oh and when I raced, I only ever had 1 DNF. Combination or stretching lifed parts and over exuberance.
I saw paid teams having avoidable silly problems... I have raced, and I know race engine builders but they are more prone to want the engine on the bench. I wouldn't take an old (07) road bike to them, I feel a bit embarrassed. Most I know only work on competitive kit.
I don't know, maybe I am getting cynical, or a bit ocd with age, but the weather is near here.
Sorry I digress. So anyone? decent professional business to deal with? locally. Thanks.
Top cynicism! I would agree with all of that.Are the main dealers any good? I'd be prepared to take it to on yer bike if I needed to, are they ok?
I guess I'd need a hire bike if that was the case.
I could do it myself but should they need doing, I rather not take the cams out and get into all that.
I have better things to do, well until I see the £££'s
I do have little faith in normal mechanics. I did do some engineering years ago.
I'm told some garages will charge and not check. So there ability is only as good as they are keen to learn, enthusiasm I guess. I know some enthusiasts are often better, a few garages call people in for help, when they get stuck.
I took a motor in to a main dealer for a cam-belt, ok, do water pump same time.
2 miles down the road started getting hot, no water in tank. Took it back. Filled it up, said it must be an air leak... did it again. Wtf... So I look under the bonnet, leak from thermostat housing, which they had to remove to work on it. So go back to them... yeah, you need a new one £260.
No I don't think so. undo 2x m6 bolts, takes me about 30 secs. I put an o'ring in... sorted. I paid for that.. Well known local main car dealer at the time. Had similar service at another with different brand.
I have it all the time at work too, I lose the will to live to some times. I have to chase people I am paying, check what they do.
Paid someone to cut a tree down, it feel through a parked trailer.... insurance job. I despair sometimes.
Oh and when I raced, I only ever had 1 DNF. Combination or stretching lifed parts and over exuberance.
I saw paid teams having avoidable silly problems... I have raced, and I know race engine builders but they are more prone to want the engine on the bench. I wouldn't take an old (07) road bike to them, I feel a bit embarrassed. Most I know only work on competitive kit.
I don't know, maybe I am getting cynical, or a bit ocd with age, but the weather is near here.
Sorry I digress. So anyone? decent professional business to deal with? locally. Thanks.
I first did my zzr valves at 15k (service interval is 7.5k) cocked it up and destroyed the engine.
Got a replacement engine which I took to a good mechanics, who physically checked clearances and said clearances were all fine (on an engine with 20k+)
I think I should have just left them alone.
But, a cbr1000 rr will be a highly tuned engine..are you happy to take that gamble? Do forum boards have examples of valve issues?
What I would do next time is strip the cam cover myself, and check them. Bit if clearances not to spec, trailered the bike to the shop for them to verify and fix, hopefully reducing the cost a lot.
But I have a mate with a bike trailer, a tow bar, and live with 10 miles of 3 bike shops. Hiring a van etc would probably make this option more expensive.
Ian
I worked in a shop where they used "valve checking fluid."
Start engine from cold, if it starts and runs easily without noise then clean round the valve cover with brake cleaner so it looks like it's been off.
Then charge the customer the requisite labour for doing it properly.
Probably only 1 out of every 20 bikes actually had it done properly.
I didn't work there long...
Start engine from cold, if it starts and runs easily without noise then clean round the valve cover with brake cleaner so it looks like it's been off.
Then charge the customer the requisite labour for doing it properly.
Probably only 1 out of every 20 bikes actually had it done properly.
I didn't work there long...
I did it on my RR6 last year. I'm pretty handy with a set of spanners, but this was a b
d job. The frame is shrinkwrapped around the engine. I couldn't get the cam cover off properly without risking damage so checked valves under partially lifted cover. Thankfully none needed adjustment. Next time I need it doing, it is going in to a Honda dealer. Chatting with the mechanics at my local dealer, they find it a difficult job too.
I've never found Honda main dealer prices exorbitant.
d job. The frame is shrinkwrapped around the engine. I couldn't get the cam cover off properly without risking damage so checked valves under partially lifted cover. Thankfully none needed adjustment. Next time I need it doing, it is going in to a Honda dealer. Chatting with the mechanics at my local dealer, they find it a difficult job too.I've never found Honda main dealer prices exorbitant.
Ian Rhodes owner of RPM Bikes is the only person I really trust around the local area, he is n Northampton but he knows his stuff..and can collect..Be perfect for your Ducati as well, have a look at his website.
https://www.rpmbikes.co.uk/
https://www.rpmbikes.co.uk/
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