Bike thieves

[A500leroy]

What is the kind of bike they are most likely to nick at the moment?

Are they just after high value stuff, 125s they can break for spares , cheap older stuff (less than a grand value), scooters or generally anything they can there hands on?

I know it's mainly a London issue but there seems to be a number going missing from the Midlands now as well.😔

[Donbot]

General assumptions . . . . .

Cheap 125's tend to be nicked opportunistically by kids to razz around fields. A cheap chain would probably put them off.
Cheap bigger bikes tend to be pretty safe from theft.
More valuable bikes are stolen due to their worth, and are targeted by the 'professional' thieves which are equipped to steal.
They nick big scooters for transport.

Edited by Donbot on Monday 2nd April 08:04

[myvision]

They always seem to turn up on a Tmax.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=grtWiGEM0J4

Nicking an MT07 in that video.

[A500leroy]

So an mt07 is seen as an expensive bike? Or is because they've sold shed loads of them and it's easy to make one disappear/move it on as parts?

I'm guessing the less popular A2 style bikes where the manufacturer has only shifted a couple of thousand of them and there under 3k new are a tad safer?

[Biker 1]

I read somewhere that KTMs are top fodder, as are most sports bikes & pretty much anything from Ducati.
There is clearly money to be made from nicking stuff, so where does it all end up??

[powerstroke]

Biker 1 said:

I read somewhere that KTMs are top fodder, as are most sports bikes & pretty much anything from Ducati.
There is clearly money to be made from nicking stuff, so where does it all end up??

Europe !! maybe the coming customs checks post brexit might improve things ??

[BuzzBravado]

A500leroy said:

So an mt07 is seen as an expensive bike? Or is because they've sold shed loads of them and it's easy to make one disappear/move it on as parts?

I'm guessing the less popular A2 style bikes where the manufacturer has only shifted a couple of thousand of them and there under 3k new are a tad safer?

You are putting too much thought into it. With these wee scrotes they are just out to steal anything they can mess about on. A2 or not its makes no difference to them.

Some bikes are easier than others like street triples for example so they might be an easier target.

[Gavia]

powerstroke said:

Europe !! maybe the coming customs checks post brexit might improve things ??

Yes, there are currently no customs checks at all, but post Brexit everything g will be checked

There are currently loads of customs checks and that is unlikely to increase or decrease post Brexit. However, they don’t check 100% of everything, as that would be a physical impossibility and unbelievably expensive.

[cmaguire]

anonymous said:

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Small time operations probably break the bikes and punt the bikes out as parts on eBay etc or offload them whole to dodgy parts traders.

Larger operations and they probably go to Asia/Africa in containers.or get ringed here with new frame numbers

[BobSaunders]

Steal them to sell to people who are breaking them down for parts.

Half a day per bike to break?

Why you would leave a bike outside is anyone's guess nowadays.

[Biker 1]

BobSaunders said:

Steal them to sell to people who are breaking them down for parts.

Half a day per bike to break?

Why you would leave a bike outside is anyone's guess nowadays.

Is the market for secondhand bike parts, particularly high-end sports bikes, really that buoyant? If so, the people buying said parts have a lot to answer for. If I had anything even remotely decent, I'd want genuine bits fitted at an approved dealer.
As for the scrotes trying to steal that MT07 in broad daylight: how could they go joy riding without the key? I would've thought Yamaha immobiliser would preclude that...

[BobSaunders]

Biker 1 said:

BobSaunders said:

Steal them to sell to people who are breaking them down for parts.

Half a day per bike to break?

Why you would leave a bike outside is anyone's guess nowadays.

Is the market for secondhand bike parts, particularly high-end sports bikes, really that buoyant? If so, the people buying said parts have a lot to answer for. If I had anything even remotely decent, I'd want genuine bits fitted at an approved dealer.
As for the scrotes trying to steal that MT07 in broad daylight: how could they go joy riding without the key? I would've thought Yamaha immobiliser would preclude that...

26k hits on ebay for MT07 parts. 2.2k parts 'used'. How do you define genuine from stolen? Nothing carries a serial number beyond frame and engine.

Even if they break and then leave it on a shelf for six months, it will sell eventually.

I suspect other higher end stuff is being shipped out just like the cars in crates. The scum stealing stuff, will not be the scum with the intelligence to ship it.

[Lee540]

Go Ace Cafe and see lads in trackies on new model sportsbikes with no registration plates

[InitialDave]

Someone in the US made a D-lock that released nasty chemicals if cut into, I have a distinct feeling such a thing wouldn't be allowed here, though, which is a pity.

[ec1 eex]

Lee540 said:

Go Ace Cafe and see lads in trackies on new model sportsbikes with no registration plates

Is that true? Given most of us here have paid our hard earned for our bikes, I'd hope at least someone would be happy to make a phone call to the coppers. Ace Cafe is still used as a base for BikeSafe, albeit at a different time of day.
I know a lot of the "skills demonstrations" outside the Ace are ignored for legality, but stolen bikes is another thing again.

[A993LAD]

One look at this story and the brazen antics of these scum thieves tells you all you need to know about how this activity is escalating. Unbelievable but please don't set a couple of honey traps and pounce on a few of these gangs. I'm also astonished that nobody is jumped in the car and mowed them down as they made their getaway in some vigilante style.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5569581/Mo...

[Lee540]

Lee540 said:

Go Ace Cafe and see lads in trackies on new model sportsbikes with no registration plates

I've been quite a few times and each time I've seen a group of these type of bikers...

Maybe they aren't stolen and they have great jobs, fully paid for and insured.. maybe.. they just like wearing matching tracksuit, trainers, no gloves..

Who knows..

[Gavia]

A993LAD said:

One look at this story and the brazen antics of these scum thieves tells you all you need to know about how this activity is escalating. Unbelievable but please don't set a couple of honey traps and pounce on a few of these gangs. I'm also astonished that nobody is jumped in the car and mowed them down as they made their getaway in some vigilante style.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5569581/Mo...

How many tiles can the same link be posted? It’s even on this thread already.

[Ed.]

Gavia said:

A993LAD said:

One look at this story and the brazen antics of these scum thieves tells you all you need to know about how this activity is escalating. Unbelievable but please don't set a couple of honey traps and pounce on a few of these gangs. I'm also astonished that nobody is jumped in the car and mowed them down as they made their getaway in some vigilante style.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5569581/Mo...

How many tiles can the same link be posted? It’s even on this thread already.

Agreed would be better off sending it to sadiq repeatedly.