No mot or tax and I need to get my new bike home ?
No mot or tax and I need to get my new bike home ?
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snowwolf

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11,503 posts

206 months

Saturday 14th April 2018
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I have purchased a second hand motorcycle, it is sorn and no mot, I just went to tax it but I can’t as it is sorn, can I drive it home ? Mot is booked in for Monday and will be taxed on Monday from the beginning of April

Any thoughts on this lads and lasses regarding the law

anonymous-user

85 months

Saturday 14th April 2018
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No.

You cannot ride or drive a car with no tax unless going to a pre-arranged MOT test, or returning from. And plod will check that, too.

You'll likely ping up on static ANPR cameras all over the shop, it's just not worth the risk.

Trevor555

5,564 posts

115 months

Saturday 14th April 2018
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You cannot ride it home, but you can collect it Monday morning and ride it direct to the MOT station where it's booked in.

You must insure it though.

snowwolf

Original Poster:

11,503 posts

206 months

Saturday 14th April 2018
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What’s the worst case scenario if I did ride it, because at the moment I don’t know how I’m going to get it home, surely if the police pulled me up I would have the log book green slip to show I had just purchased it, would they be that mean if I they checked, I suppose so

Edited by snowwolf on Saturday 14th April 19:17

anonymous-user

85 months

Saturday 14th April 2018
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Hire a van! It's safer..

Trevor555

5,564 posts

115 months

Saturday 14th April 2018
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snowwolf said:
What’s the worst case scenario if I did ride it, because at the moment I don’t know how I’m going to get it home
It's not worth the hassle, pay someone to move it.

Will the MOT station collect it?

Is there an MOT station near to where you're picking it up from so you can wheel it?

What ever you do don't ride it with no insurance, penalties are high and you'll endure increased insurance premiums for years.

NicCTR

509 posts

118 months

Saturday 14th April 2018
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There are people on the roads who choose to drive/ride without a license/insurance/tax (sometimes all three!) every day....

Jazoli

9,700 posts

281 months

Saturday 14th April 2018
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Just insure it and ride it home, far too many snowflakes around, the world won't end, you won't get stopped and you can tax it on Monday.

revvingit

444 posts

111 months

Saturday 14th April 2018
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snowwolf said:
What’s the worst case scenario if I did ride it, because at the moment I don’t know how I’m going to get it home, surely if the police pulled me up I would have the log book green slip to show I had just purchased it, would they be that mean if I they checked, I suppose so

Edited by snowwolf on Saturday 14th April 19:17
Your fined a substantial amount of money for having no tax or MOT, as long as your insured you won't get points. I mean technically it can be seized in this scenario, but if you comply with the copper that's highly unlikely.

Get it insured, tax it as soon as you pick it up (you can do this online instantly) and book it in for a MOT directly from where you picked it up before you pick it up (you can ride a bike with no MOT if it's on it's way to an MOT test centre to have the MOT done with a pre-booked appointment).

curlie467

7,650 posts

232 months

Saturday 14th April 2018
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Jazoli said:
Just insure it and ride it home, far too many snowflakes around, the world won't end, you won't get stopped and you can tax it on Monday.
laugh it's what many folk would do, me included but I wouldn't announce it first.

revvingit

444 posts

111 months

Saturday 14th April 2018
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Jazoli said:
Just insure it and ride it home, far too many snowflakes around, the world won't end, you won't get stopped and you can tax it on Monday.
The only time I've ever been stopped by the police is because I was riding like a numpty in front of a parked police car. I really doubt anyones going to stop you riding home, but a sod's law goes the one time you will be is when there's something with your vehicle they can get you for. In reality traffic cops have enough work chasing vehicles being driven by thieves, uninsured drivers, speeders and dangerous drivers to be that bothered by a no MOT flash on an otherwise roadworthy looking vehicle, unless it's a quiet day.

Trevor555

5,564 posts

115 months

Saturday 14th April 2018
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Put up your location, someone on here may be able to help who has trade insurance and plates.

I'd do it for you if you were near me, maybe you have another helpful person nearby?

snowwolf

Original Poster:

11,503 posts

206 months

Saturday 14th April 2018
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Thanks for all the replies, I am already insured for the bike, done that today before insurance place shut, it’s quite a distance to get it home, Ipswich to Maidstone about 80 miles

snowwolf

Original Poster:

11,503 posts

206 months

Saturday 14th April 2018
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Trevor555 said:
Put up your location, someone on here may be able to help who has trade insurance and plates.

I'd do it for you if you were near me, maybe you have another helpful person nearby?
Thanks for the offer Trevor, if someone did come along the only day I can do is tomorrow (Sunday) as I’m working all week frown

HelterSkelter

206 posts

173 months

Saturday 14th April 2018
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I would have thought the obvious answer,
and what I did, is hire a small van for half a day to collect it.

Other than that risk it and ride it back yourself.

Pica-Pica

16,708 posts

115 months

Saturday 14th April 2018
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snowwolf said:
Thanks for all the replies, I am already insured for the bike, done that today before insurance place shut, it’s quite a distance to get it home, Ipswich to Maidstone about 80 miles
..and ANPR on QE2 Bridge!

tom_e

346 posts

130 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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Technically you are riding it to a pre booked MOT, ride it straight to the garage and leave it parked up there.
Pretty sure there's no hard and fast rule on what constitutes riding to a pre booked MOT so as long as you've not got an attitude when/if you get pulled you'll probably get away with it.

naetype

890 posts

281 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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I believe that riding a bike with no VED or MOT automatically invalidates your insurance on the road. If you have a crash then you're gonna be shafted royally. Be sensible and hire a van or pay someone to move it for you which is peanuts compared to the consequences.

ETA: I do believe there's a test of 'reasonableness' for riding to a pre-booked MOT. I think 80 miles would probably fail that test.


Gavia

7,627 posts

122 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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naetype said:
I believe that riding a bike with no VED or MOT automatically invalidates your insurance on the road. If you have a crash then you're gonna be shafted royally. Be sensible and hire a van or pay someone to move it for you which is peanuts compared to the consequences.

ETA: I do believe there's a test of 'reasonableness' for riding to a pre-booked MOT. I think 80 miles would probably fail that test.
No it doesn’t invalidate your insurance and there is no test of reasonableness at all with the MOT

This thread is a joke, people are so fking wet nowadays.

Insurance is the one thing that really matters.

No MOT £100 fine, no points
No VED £100 fixed penalty (yes they can fine you more but they won’t), no points and probably have to an the back tax, which you’ll be paying anyway when you tax it later in the month.

That’s the sum total of your risk, bugger all.

As for those saying tax it online, how will he do that when it’s not got an MOT?

Just ride the bike back and stop being so soft.

orangefzr

179 posts

106 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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Gavia said:
No it doesn’t invalidate your insurance and there is no test of reasonableness at all with the MOT

This thread is a joke, people are so fking wet nowadays.

Insurance is the one thing that really matters.

No MOT £100 fine, no points
No VED £100 fixed penalty (yes they can fine you more but they won’t), no points and probably have to an the back tax, which you’ll be paying anyway when you tax it later in the month.

That’s the sum total of your risk, bugger all.

As for those saying tax it online, how will he do that when it’s not got an MOT?

Just ride the bike back and stop being so soft.

You're certain to ping an anpr camera and I'd doubt that if you were stopped the police would believe that you were taking it to an mot test centre on a Sunday, so on the strength of the previous advice is piss poor imo, also specifically worded clauses in insurance documents will probably say that if you're knowingly using the vehicle when not taking it to a mot centre oh I don't know say for example 80 miles away your insurance would probably be invalidated as well if stopped on the road, then you could also have to pay a salty recovery cost and storage fees. Oh and as soon as you stop for petrol or at a shop then you're not taking the vehicle straight to a test centre, and then leaving yourself wide open to be prosecuted for all three, I have been done twice now for no ved many years ago and after the second time I was looking at a massive fine if caught again.

There are plenty of motorcycle transportation outfits out there who would move your bike at a way more reasonable cost then what you are going to potentially lose by breaking the law

Yours sincerely

Snowflake who doesn't get fined by plod anymore