Insurance required, unable to quote due modifications!
Insurance required, unable to quote due modifications!
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r1flyguy1

Original Poster:

1,575 posts

207 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Hi All

Just trying to be honest with insurance policies in regards to bike modifications but honesty is not the best policy obviously.

Ive been insured with Bennetts on and off for a few years now, switching between providers based on policy cover & price.
This year, they won’t quote for a bike with more than 3 modifications!!!!

I asked what they class as a modification and obviously puts my heavily modded bike (cosmetic not engine performance enhancing) uninsurable!

Anyone on here know of a company that offers a decent fully comp policy and accepts modifications.

In truth im not bothered about them replacing like for like incase the worse happens, i just want to be able to ride it.

Cheers

ikarl

4,078 posts

230 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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MCE are pretty decent with modifications apart from forced induction... although they do not cover the value of them in the event of an accident/loss

GoSkippy are my current insurers and they were ok with an end can/screen/tail tidy/bar ends etc..

although, from reviews of both companies, I'm not sure how 'decent' they are in the event of an issue/claim

r1flyguy1

Original Poster:

1,575 posts

207 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Thanks for the reply

I had a policy with MCE some 20 years ago and when i was hit by a TVR they were actually quite good on the claim but that was a while ago.

On comparison website MCE & Bikesure are the only ones quoting. I’m morre than happy to insure the bike under the understanding should an accident occur then the bike, should it be repairable will be repaired with OE kit.

The 3 items rule is crazy in my opinion, the screen is the first thing i change being 6’1, crash bobbins & a road legal end can would be more than 3 items if you have a full R&G kit fitted shoot

3200gt

2,727 posts

255 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Give Peter James a call. 0121 506 6040. They'll sort you out with a suitable policy. I have 5 bikes insured with them, all FC, unlimited, agreed value, all the whistles and bells for about £150.00 combined.

catso

16,540 posts

298 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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2 of my bikes are heavily modified and I have a multi-bike policy covering all 3 with Carole Nash. IIRC when I first took it out due to the amount of modifications it was a 'custom bike' policy and I have agreed value for all bikes, for which I had to provide an extensive list of mods along with pictures.

They also include breakdown cover.

r1flyguy1

Original Poster:

1,575 posts

207 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Cheers guys, thanks for the options.

Bikesure have quoted a little over £300, fully comp, protected. I have 15+ years NC, bikes garaged, live in the midlands, access to another insured (by me) bike & 3 cars, Still seems a little high.

r1flyguy1

Original Poster:

1,575 posts

207 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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3200gt said:
Give Peter James a call. 0121 506 6040. They'll sort you out with a suitable policy. I have 5 bikes insured with them, all FC, unlimited, agreed value, all the whistles and bells for about £150.00 combined.
Just called them, they are a ‘classic specialist’ and dont deal with modern bikes. My 2009 is a bit too new for them.
Thanks anyway

croyde

26,518 posts

261 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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MCE appear to be the only insurer that'll quote me a normal price and that's if any of the others bother to quote.

55, riding since 17, no mods, tons of ncb but living in London.

nyxster

1,452 posts

202 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Try principal or bemoto.

r1flyguy1

Original Poster:

1,575 posts

207 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Cheers guys, will give them a try too.

jonindorset

1,082 posts

275 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Hastings Direct have just allowed me to add uprated rear shock, rear spring and front fork springs and heavier fork oil to the existing mods at no extra cost at all.

Tango13

10,180 posts

207 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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nyxster said:
Try principal or bemoto.
I'm with principal for my 1050 Franken Trumpet and that's very modified...

r1flyguy1

Original Poster:

1,575 posts

207 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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Awesome, thanks guys, have a few to try now and a couple of days to sort it out. bow

cmaguire

3,589 posts

140 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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I think you are over-declaring. Declaring crash protection ?

I would only consider two things.
Does the mod make it more nickable?
Does the mod make it faster?
Yes then declare it.
No then don't.

Dog Star

17,645 posts

199 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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cmaguire said:
I think you are over-declaring. Declaring crash protection ?

I would only consider two things.
Does the mod make it more nickable?
Does the mod make it faster?
Yes then declare it.
No then don't.
I'm with you on this one; all you are doing when you declare a taller screen for example is causing the call centre person to have a cow. I'm 100% certain that Gavia will agree with this, and if it's good enough for him etc...

I've got paddock stand hooks. Am I declaring them? Am I hell, they are of no possible bearing in any way on the risk. I have a luggage rack, I don't declare that because I remove it and just put it on when I am going off somewhere; do you tell your car insurer you're using a roof rack?

And that poster a two up ^^ declaring fork springs and oil? You what? Why? Who on earth will ever know? Absolutely nobody. Ever. Why even put yourself through the hassle.

Non-standard exhaust, turbo, different wheels, paint job etc yes. Tail tidy, no.

r1flyguy1

Original Poster:

1,575 posts

207 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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I totally understand what you mean and appreciate your point of view.
In this day & age im trying to limit their ability to reguse a claim based on non disclosure of modifications.

Heres a non-exhaustive list of whats fitted as im sure i missed out some smaller details i havent disclosed the stuff you have actually mentioned, i.e screen, paintsheild, solo seat just the blantly evident changes. This is a 2009 ZX10R so the differences are night & day

Ohlins R&T Forks
Ohlins Rear Shock
Ohlins Damper upgrade
Galfer Discs F&R
BST Carbon Wheels
Brembo Brakes & M/Cyl
Akropovich Carbon road legal Can
Gilles Rearsets
Braided Lines F&R
Carbon Hugger F&R
R&G Parts
Solo Seat
Paintshield
Carbon side panels, Carbon Infils, Carbon Bellypan,
Screen
Baglux Tank Cover
R&G Tail Tidy
R&G Exhaust hanger

Dog Star

17,645 posts

199 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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Baglux tank cover?!

I must admit to having a single seat cowl (seventeen quid from China) and no pillion footrests. I'd like to see their take on that one since I'm not insured to carry a pillion.

r1flyguy1

Original Poster:

1,575 posts

207 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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Dog Star said:
Baglux tank cover?!

I must admit to having a single seat cowl (seventeen quid from China) and no pillion footrests. I'd like to see their take on that one since I'm not insured to carry a pillion.
Ha ha, i know, ive had one on every bike ive owned as used to commute & tour a lot, fetish maybe, but i like them. Also use the baglux map attachment to put my phone in or map

Wildfire

9,951 posts

283 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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Bikesure covered all my mods like for like, but won't really do performance mods (e.g. engine etc.)

Dog Star

17,645 posts

199 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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Incidentally- my renewal is up soon and due to a bike theft less than five years ago and a car crash in 2016 I do have to put some effort in insuring a new shape R1.

Many’s the time I’ve tried putting Mrs DS onto my bike Insurance and it’s been of no benefit, but not today. I’ve gone from around 850 with just me to 500 just by adding Mrs DS (who also has a bike theft declared). Still bloody expensive, but that will teach me to not crash cars, and it’s still an awful lot better than being in London.