New helmet time
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shielsy

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826 posts

160 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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A gust of wind managed to take out both by Bell carbon helmet and a pint of Peroni today. The helmet appears to have a pretty nasty crack underneath the top layer so it's probably best I replace it.

Question.... Are Arai helmets worth the extra cash? I've fancied one for quite a while now but it seems you need to spend at least £500 to get one with the bits I want/need... Like removable headliner. Any other brands to consider before I take the plunge?

I actually really liked the Bell M9; really comfortable lid and it has lasted quite well. I also appreciated it's lightweight and looks.

Main requirements are comfortable, light ish weight, washable (because I like a fresh smelling helmet... Ooo err) and something that will last. Something reasonably quite would be a bonus but not a deal breaker. Budget is about £500.

Jazoli

9,700 posts

281 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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Where did it fall from to crack? I'd be a bit concerned if it did.

Arai's are really nice lids, but pricey, and lacking things like drop down sun visors and quick visor change mech's, it wouldn't put me off buying one though, have a look at the HJC RPHA, it has all the features you want and is around half the price of the equivalent Arai, they are a similar fit.

Mortgage_tom

1,548 posts

257 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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I second the HJC RPHA.

I wanted to splash out on an Arai or Shoei so spent the day visiting different shops to try them all on. But found the HJC RHPA 11 not only the best fit for my head, but high quality and very light. Its also a bargain.

bogie

17,105 posts

303 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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Ive had a couple of Arai and Shoei over the years. 25 years ago there was much less choice for a top quality helmet and the difference really stood out, as did the fit. You wanted "the best" you bought Arai or shoei, which had quite distinct different fits. Now each of them do helmets in their range to suit different head shapes.

These days there is so much more choice, and maybe 1/2 dozen brands who have a top of the range helmet that can match the Japanese on quality.

For £500 you could choose from Bell, Shark, Schuberth, HJC, AGV and all have a top carbon sports helmet in their line up (if thats what you want)

Id shop around, select a few with the features you want and go somewhere you can try them on for fit. Then once you now size/brand/model you can often find last years colour on offer somewhere for a big discount.

shielsy

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826 posts

160 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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Jazoli said:
Where did it fall from to crack? I'd be a bit concerned if it did.
It fell from a table about waist height onto a concrete floor and then rolled down a slope. It was a bit more than just a fall thanks to the wind.

Here's a pic. The crack you can see feels raised when you run a finger over it.

https://ibb.co/cvBspS

Jazoli

9,700 posts

281 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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shielsy said:
It fell from a table about waist height onto a concrete floor and then rolled down a slope. It was a bit more than just a fall thanks to the wind.

Here's a pic. The crack you can see feels raised when you run a finger over it.

I'd have expected it not to crack like that but I'm used to fibreglass lids that you can play football with and they would never look like that, like you say, definitely time for a new one.

martyn850

69 posts

152 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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I bought an Arai last year. I’d always had Shoeis as Arai never fitted my head. This time it was the reverse. I bought the QV Pro which is a sports touring design and it’s a really good helmet. Very comfortable (I’ve done 6+ hour rides and never felt any discomfort) good vents and a really good field of vison with the visor which has a pinlock which kinda sits in the visor rather than on it. The sun visor sits externally but doesn’t cause any problems. And the QV pro in Stint yellow (same as mine) has been reduced from £569 to £400 on sportsbike shop website.

But until you try it on you’ll never know which is best!!

(Edit: just checked the sportsbike shop website and it’s that price as it’s only in XS. Still I’d pay the full price again if I had to replace mine )

Edited by martyn850 on Tuesday 1st May 18:39

trickywoo

14,273 posts

261 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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I’ve been seriously impressed with my shoei x spirit 3. Really quiet and stable. Light and comfortable.

Arai imo are really heavy now compared to the competition and haven’t been innovative for years.

PIGINAWIG

2,339 posts

196 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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trickywoo said:
I’ve been seriously impressed with my shoei x spirit 3. Really quiet and stable. Light and comfortable.

Arai imo are really heavy now compared to the competition and haven’t been innovative for years.
Me and toxicnerve both have these too. Best lid I’ve ever had.

bozzy.

780 posts

109 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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Mortgage_tom said:
I second the HJC RPHA.

I wanted to splash out on an Arai or Shoei so spent the day visiting different shops to try them all on. But found the HJC RHPA 11 not only the best fit for my head, but high quality and very light. Its also a bargain.
I third the HJC RPHA. I bought a RPHA 11 and it’s the badger’s nadgers.

Ed.

2,176 posts

269 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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bozzy. said:
Mortgage_tom said:
I second the HJC RPHA.

I wanted to splash out on an Arai or Shoei so spent the day visiting different shops to try them all on. But found the HJC RHPA 11 not only the best fit for my head, but high quality and very light. Its also a bargain.
I third the HJC RPHA. I bought a RPHA 11 and it’s the badger’s nadgers.
I just got a RPHA 70 from sports bike shop, there are some colour schemes on sale.
Good fit and useful visor lock, the anti fog isn't great though, getting a pinlock.

seveb

308 posts

104 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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I found Arai build quality not to be good. Things like vents leaking or falling off, side pods falling off.

Shoei NXR has been fantastic, at £370 it's a bargain.

I'd have to think twice about a Bell helmet given the damage to yours after falling off a table !

Rawwr

22,722 posts

265 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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PIGINAWIG said:
trickywoo said:
I’ve been seriously impressed with my shoei x spirit 3. Really quiet and stable. Light and comfortable.

Arai imo are really heavy now compared to the competition and haven’t been innovative for years.
Me and toxicnerve both have these too. Best lid I’ve ever had.
I use one, too. It's pretty fantastic and I can't really fault it but I'm going to go back to an NXR as I find it slightly more comfortable.

PIGINAWIG

2,339 posts

196 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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£429 for the x-spirit 3 is a bargain. Original shoei dark visor is £70.00 odd quid. - £500 all in! Budget gone!

Mr OCD

6,388 posts

242 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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trickywoo said:
Arai imo are really heavy now compared to the competition and haven’t been innovative for years.
Agreed. I've had ARAI's for years, but due a new helmet this year I had a look around to see what else is out there.

I landed up buying a BELL RaceStar carbon with the fancy FLEX technology. It's a lovely bit of kit being light and very comfortable although not cheap. Ear plugs are essential as its much noisier than my ARAI lids and annoyingly I can't wear my in-ear headphones on the commute as there are no inner cut outs for them like the ARAI.



Edited by Mr OCD on Wednesday 2nd May 10:23

bogie

17,105 posts

303 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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They have Bell Star (the road version) on offer at Helmet city, many colours down to £249 ...might have to get one myself

http://www.helmetcity.co.uk/bell-star-1/

Rawwr

22,722 posts

265 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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Mr OCD said:
Agreed. I've had ARAI's for years, but due a new helmet this year I had a look around to see what else is out there.

I landed up buying a BELL RaceStar carbon with the fancy FLEX technology. It's a lovely bit of kit being light and very comfortable although not cheap. Ear plugs are essential as its much than my ARAI lids and annoyingly I can't wear my in-ear headphones on the commute as there are no inner cut outs for them like the ARAI.
I remember changing from using an Arai RX7-GP to a Shoei NXR and then tried on an Arai RX7-V at the bike show and felt like I was balancing a washing machine on my head.

Mr OCD

6,388 posts

242 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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bogie said:
They have Bell Star (the road version) on offer at Helmet city, many colours down to £249 ...might have to get one myself

http://www.helmetcity.co.uk/bell-star-1/
I looked at the star first, but the fit wasn't great. The race and pro star use different systems internally for a better fit.

bogie

17,105 posts

303 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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the Arai RX7 is not particularly light for the type of helmet - 1600 odd grams is similar to some of the lightest flip up/convertible touring helmets that are often judged as "heavy"

I would expect a full carbon race helmet to be more like 1300g or less.

CAPP0

20,881 posts

234 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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Mr OCD said:
trickywoo said:
Arai imo are really heavy now compared to the competition and haven’t been innovative for years.
Agreed. I've had ARAI's for years, but due a new helmet this year I had a look around to see what else is out there.

I landed up buying a BELL RaceStar carbon with the fancy FLEX technology. It's a lovely bit of kit being light and very comfortable although not cheap. Ear plugs are essential as its much noisier than my ARAI lids and annoyingly I can't wear my in-ear headphones on the commute as there are no inner cut outs for them like the ARAI.



Edited by Mr OCD on Wednesday 2nd May 10:23
I have to agree with this. I've had quite a few Arais over the years, and I must admit, when you put one on it just feels really "right", comfortable, plush, lovely, but the one I have now (Quantum ST) is just so feckin noisy it's unreal - and that's with earplugs in, on a bike with a screen the size of a shipping container. It's starting to drive me mad. The lid is only about 2.5 years old but I'm going to look for something else just to get some peace & quiet on the bike. They look good and are comfortable but I think I may have purchased my last Arai unless something radical changes.

And the drop-down visor ready is mickey mouse. It works but looks stupid and makes a lot (more) noise.



Edited by CAPP0 on Wednesday 2nd May 11:00