Middle lane hoggers
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Just come back from a trip down to the coast that involved a fair number of motorway miles - and I don't think I have ever come across so many of the above in all the years I've been on the roads. One middle lane hogger and you've got God knows how many unnecessary overtakes as a result.
What is it with them? Is it the curse of cruise control? It's enough to make you weep.
Super weather though...
What is it with them? Is it the curse of cruise control? It's enough to make you weep.
Super weather though...
I can only speak for me... and I'm in no way defending what I do... but with so much traffic going at truck type speeds (50-60mph) on the inside lane, I'd wear my indicators out keep bobbing in and out.
My rule has always been, if I can see the next overtake, I stay where I am. So if a gap comes up, of course I'll move back in, but invariably on the motor and duals I do at the times I do, it's too busy to stand a chance.
Not much on the roads this evening though, great of a nice blast.
My rule has always been, if I can see the next overtake, I stay where I am. So if a gap comes up, of course I'll move back in, but invariably on the motor and duals I do at the times I do, it's too busy to stand a chance.
Not much on the roads this evening though, great of a nice blast.
I did Newcastle to Peterborough and back over the weekend and most of my overtakes involved having to swoop from lane 1 to 3 just to get past the MLMs.
There was one girl driving in absolute no mans land, no other cars around, just cruising in lane 2. I ended up passing her in lane 1 and looked back to see if she'd maybe clock on - looked completely oblivious. I made a gesture to suggest moving over to lane 1 and she just carried on looking dead straight - I'm not sure she'd actually noticed me at any point.
Bonus points to the absolute
who decided he wanted to pull out regardless of whether or not there was a bike alongside him, so figured he'd just start moving across anyway. When shown the classic 'what the are you doing?!' gesture, he figured he'd laugh it off rather than apologise.
There was one girl driving in absolute no mans land, no other cars around, just cruising in lane 2. I ended up passing her in lane 1 and looked back to see if she'd maybe clock on - looked completely oblivious. I made a gesture to suggest moving over to lane 1 and she just carried on looking dead straight - I'm not sure she'd actually noticed me at any point.
Bonus points to the absolute
who decided he wanted to pull out regardless of whether or not there was a bike alongside him, so figured he'd just start moving across anyway. When shown the classic 'what the are you doing?!' gesture, he figured he'd laugh it off rather than apologise.Around the Bristol are and motorway, M32, M4 and M5 the designers of the motorway have added the inside line as a filter lane for the next junction. probably like many other motorways in the UK. Thus making people think they need to stay in the middle lane and not filter off at the next junction.
Not that it's a excuse for some of the middle lane hogging I need. But can't help.
What annoys me is when people know a bike is behind and won't move over to allow something quicker pass. So I often undertake.
So with poor road knowledge and poor driving standards people just have no idea what they are doing. Added to the don't care if I'm holding people up because it's drummed into them speeding kills. or at least going going faster than them
Not that it's a excuse for some of the middle lane hogging I need. But can't help.
What annoys me is when people know a bike is behind and won't move over to allow something quicker pass. So I often undertake.
So with poor road knowledge and poor driving standards people just have no idea what they are doing. Added to the don't care if I'm holding people up because it's drummed into them speeding kills. or at least going going faster than them
Same observation here. Maybe 300 motorway miles this weekend and infested with the buggers. I also noticed s/c road speeds were significantly slower too.
Sadly I was in a car most of the time, and the rest of the time on my RGV250 running in, which at 6k max isn't so easy to overtake anything
Driving standards are way worse than they've ever been before IMO, but this weekend were another click below again. I've totally given up on the right hand overtake convention now, left or right, whatever works is my new way. As long as you don't cause a nuisance to anyone there's no problem.
What puzzles me is if you're a dick cruising along in the wrong lane and you catch up with another dick cruising in the wrong lane, do you notice the problem? when you have to brake and wait for a gap to overtake in, whilst 1 or 2 empty lanes exist on the left?
Sadly I was in a car most of the time, and the rest of the time on my RGV250 running in, which at 6k max isn't so easy to overtake anything
Driving standards are way worse than they've ever been before IMO, but this weekend were another click below again. I've totally given up on the right hand overtake convention now, left or right, whatever works is my new way. As long as you don't cause a nuisance to anyone there's no problem.
What puzzles me is if you're a dick cruising along in the wrong lane and you catch up with another dick cruising in the wrong lane, do you notice the problem? when you have to brake and wait for a gap to overtake in, whilst 1 or 2 empty lanes exist on the left?
MLM or outside lane hoggers aren't a problem on a bike, I just go whichever side is clear these days, I did 400 miles on the M6/M56 last week and it amazed me how many people now just sit there regardless of whether other lanes are empty, one of the benefits of a litre bike is that you are past them and gone before they have chance to be annoyed and do a last minute lane swap.
Drives me nuts in the car but I don't do many mway journeys these days.
Drives me nuts in the car but I don't do many mway journeys these days.
Edited by Jazoli on Tuesday 8th May 14:46
Doesn't bother me on the bike so again not sure why this is in BB.
However in the car, super irritating our UK motorways just do not flow properly due to poor lane discipline.
Clearly surrey police have lots of time and resources on their hands I was pointed to a tweet this morning where they were proudly tweeting with a photo of some person MLMing it at 60mph who'd been stopped and ticketed. Wow!
search for #MiddleLaneHog and you'll see the tweet
However in the car, super irritating our UK motorways just do not flow properly due to poor lane discipline.
Clearly surrey police have lots of time and resources on their hands I was pointed to a tweet this morning where they were proudly tweeting with a photo of some person MLMing it at 60mph who'd been stopped and ticketed. Wow!
search for #MiddleLaneHog and you'll see the tweet
phil4 said:
I can only speak for me... and I'm in no way defending what I do... but with so much traffic going at truck type speeds (50-60mph) on the inside lane, I'd wear my indicators out keep bobbing in and out.
My rule has always been, if I can see the next overtake, I stay where I am. So if a gap comes up, of course I'll move back in, but invariably on the motor and duals I do at the times I do, it's too busy to stand a chance.
Not much on the roads this evening though, great of a nice blast.
That's a fair amount of potentially wasted road space.My rule has always been, if I can see the next overtake, I stay where I am. So if a gap comes up, of course I'll move back in, but invariably on the motor and duals I do at the times I do, it's too busy to stand a chance.
Not much on the roads this evening though, great of a nice blast.
I attempt to be out and back in within 10 seconds.
Torquey said:
phil4 said:
I can only speak for me... and I'm in no way defending what I do... but with so much traffic going at truck type speeds (50-60mph) on the inside lane, I'd wear my indicators out keep bobbing in and out.
My rule has always been, if I can see the next overtake, I stay where I am. So if a gap comes up, of course I'll move back in, but invariably on the motor and duals I do at the times I do, it's too busy to stand a chance.
Not much on the roads this evening though, great of a nice blast.
That's a fair amount of potentially wasted road space.My rule has always been, if I can see the next overtake, I stay where I am. So if a gap comes up, of course I'll move back in, but invariably on the motor and duals I do at the times I do, it's too busy to stand a chance.
Not much on the roads this evening though, great of a nice blast.
I attempt to be out and back in within 10 seconds.
Toonshorty said:
Bonus points to the absolute who decided he wanted to pull out regardless of whether or not there was a bike alongside him, so figured he'd just start moving across anyway. When shown the classic 'what the are you doing?!' gesture, he figured he'd laugh it off rather than apologise.
Sounds like you didnt help matters by hovering in his blind spot. who decided he wanted to pull out regardless of whether or not there was a bike alongside him, so figured he'd just start moving across anyway. When shown the classic 'what the are you doing?!' gesture, he figured he'd laugh it off rather than apologise.Gassing Station | Biker Banter | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff