Pedrosa Loses Honda Seat
Discussion
dibblecorse said:
I guess that marriage had to come to an end eventually, an absolute ambassador for the sport ....
One thing is for sure, Cal won't get that seat .....
By the sounds of it he's the only one that wants it... Zarco, Mir and Miller have apparently all turned the ride down, having heard it's even harder to ride than the Ducati. One thing is for sure, Cal won't get that seat .....
They're basically saying it's a bike that only Marquez can consistently get results on, and he has to crash to find the limit.
benjobanjo said:
By the sounds of it he's the only one that wants it... Zarco, Mir and Miller have apparently all turned the ride down, having heard it's even harder to ride than the Ducati.
They're basically saying it's a bike that only Marquez can consistently get results on, and he has to crash to find the limit.
So does MM93, he just seems to have developed a method of picking it up .... his luck will (unfortunately) run out eventually ....They're basically saying it's a bike that only Marquez can consistently get results on, and he has to crash to find the limit.
Having a works bike no longer seems to be the massive advantage it always used to be. I know Marquez is dominating at the moment but I'd suggest that is largely down to ability rather than performance, as opposed to a few years ago when Hondas were tangibly faster.
I like Dani Pedrosa, he's been a fixture in the sport for so long, and a quiet man who tended to let his riding do the talking. He was unlucky not to win a Championship at the top level, probably due to riding when the sport was dominated by Rossi, Stoner, Lorenzo and Marquez.
I like Dani Pedrosa, he's been a fixture in the sport for so long, and a quiet man who tended to let his riding do the talking. He was unlucky not to win a Championship at the top level, probably due to riding when the sport was dominated by Rossi, Stoner, Lorenzo and Marquez.
Italy's Gazetto dello Sport saying Lorenzo to Honda - https://www.gazzetta.it/Moto/moto-GP/05-06-2018/ho...
Marquez just heard about Lorenzo so has decided to move to a different team. 
https://twitter.com/HondaRacingF1/status/100390185...
https://twitter.com/HondaRacingF1/status/100390185...
FourWheelDrift said:
Italy's Gazetto dello Sport saying Lorenzo to Honda - https://www.gazzetta.it/Moto/moto-GP/05-06-2018/ho...
Hmm. Lorenzo rides on rails, Marquez rides like a man possessed... hardly complimentary teammates. I would be VERY surprised if Jorge is on anything other than Yamaha/Suzuki machinery next yearI don't think Marquez would give a s
t who joins him. He'll beat them all on that bike.
The only issue is if someone else like Lorenzo started to change it?
Lorenzo would sort of make sense with the timing of what he was saying about announcing something soon.
But after his ducati debacle I'd assume that he'd want a bike that works for him from the off.
Shame for Pedrosa but could see it coming. If he'd have been on a yam or weighed a bit more he would have won a WC.
t who joins him. He'll beat them all on that bike.The only issue is if someone else like Lorenzo started to change it?
Lorenzo would sort of make sense with the timing of what he was saying about announcing something soon.
But after his ducati debacle I'd assume that he'd want a bike that works for him from the off.
Shame for Pedrosa but could see it coming. If he'd have been on a yam or weighed a bit more he would have won a WC.
ITP said:
On a more serious note, how about A. Espagaro, he's we'll narked off with the aprilia and he does always seem to beat his team mates.....
So narked off he's signed a new deal with Aprilia and why would HRC take him? He's the biggest under achiever in MotoGP. He's never won a race in any category and has only 2 podium positions to his name across 14 years of GP racing and 4 different classes.Using logic suggests that Honda already have a race and championship winner in Marquez. So what they now need is someone that can win or be near the front if/when MM93 crashes out, so that they gather Team & Manufacturer points. However they also need to develop young talent that can replace Marc if he retires suddenly just like Casey did. I imagine Marc wants more overall championships and more Moto GP Championships than VR46 so that means we have Marc for at least another 3 years ?
So who do I see being that rider :--
Joan Mir would be top of my list
Franki Morbidelli would be on the list
Jorge Martin would be on the list
Jack Millar would be on the list
In my view HRC wont want Cal or Jorge or Andrea or Petrucci or any of Luthi/Redding/Smith/Espargaro/Bautista/Abrahams/Rea/A Marquez
It will be fun to see who actually gets offered the ride and actually accepts.
So who do I see being that rider :--
Joan Mir would be top of my list
Franki Morbidelli would be on the list
Jorge Martin would be on the list
Jack Millar would be on the list
In my view HRC wont want Cal or Jorge or Andrea or Petrucci or any of Luthi/Redding/Smith/Espargaro/Bautista/Abrahams/Rea/A Marquez
It will be fun to see who actually gets offered the ride and actually accepts.
FourWheelDrift said:
ITP said:
On a more serious note, how about A. Espagaro, he's we'll narked off with the aprilia and he does always seem to beat his team mates.....
So narked off he's signed a new deal with Aprilia and why would HRC take him? He's the biggest under achiever in MotoGP. He's never won a race in any category and has only 2 podium positions to his name across 14 years of GP racing and 4 different classes.Always seemed quite a fast rider to me, especially qualifying. Has he ever had one of the fastest bikes on the grid to work with, I don't know?
Without that, all you can do in reality is to be faster than your team mate. Or crash trying to make up the difference to the faster bikes. Same as in any top level motorsport really these days.
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