Do any insurers allow car NCD?
Do any insurers allow car NCD?
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white91

Original Poster:

31 posts

191 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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At the age of 34, never been involved in an accident with over 12 years no claims I’m getting silly prices for a new bike policy! It seems they want to know if you’ve had any claims or speeding points (I have neither) then totally refuse to take car ncd into account!

Do any bike insurance companies allow the carry over of car ncd? Best price I got was £700 per year on a SDP with the bike garaged (worst was £6900!). This compared to £350 I was paying for a business use policy on a 360bhp modified Golf GTI!

anonymous-user

85 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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Not sure why they would?
Being able to drive a car tells the insurers nothing about your ability on a bike (demonstrated by a friend if mine who had been driving for 20 years but kept falling off his bike as he had no sense of balance)

white91

Original Poster:

31 posts

191 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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keirik said:
Not sure why they would?
Being able to drive a car tells the insurers nothing about your ability on a bike (demonstrated by a friend if mine who had been driving for 20 years but kept falling off his bike as he had no sense of balance)
So why then do they ask if you’ve had any car claims or have any speeding points? It’s really putting me off buying a bike now as I can’t justify £700 per year for 3000 summer miles from an insurer I’ve never heard of.

LuS1fer

43,562 posts

276 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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What bike is it? I am older but my Suzi 650 is under £100.

white91

Original Poster:

31 posts

191 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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This might be the issue it will be a Triumph Daytona 675r! I’ve just done a quote for next year assuming I have 1 years NCD it will more than half to £300 with Bennett’s, I can live with that

marksx

5,174 posts

221 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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You could be a perfect driver yet have no idea on a bike.

You can still break the speed limit in a car, or fail to follow other road rules. Or you could have caused an accident by doing something wrong in the car that could also happen on a bike.

That's how I interpret it anyway.

white91

Original Poster:

31 posts

191 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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I probably would say this but I am a good driver, I cover 30,000 miles per year, yet never been in an accident, never been caught speeding and hopefully never caused an accident. However that counts for nothing when it comes to bike insurance.

Looks like I’ve just got to bite the bullet, but my initial questions was does anybody know of an insurance company who could help get my premium down by considering how good I’ve been at driving.


croyde

26,507 posts

261 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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In 38 years of riding bikes I have never found an insurance company that will take into account my centuries of car NCD.

But of course they will penalise me for any claims or convictions gained in my car and vica versa for my car insurance.

Weso

480 posts

235 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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croyde said:
In 38 years of riding bikes I have never found an insurance company that will take into account my centuries of car NCD.

But of course they will penalise me for any claims or convictions gained in my car and vica versa for my car insurance.
Yeah this. I had a bike crash and they penalised my car insurance.
Robbing s.
Wes

Justatwist

92 posts

193 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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I assume your quoting for fully comp?
It’s solely down to the bike I’m afraid, I’m 34 like you, got my licence in March this year but instead of getting a “newish” bike I opted for an older hornet 600. I only insured it TPFT as the bikes only worth about £1500, and I’m only paying £127 per year.
Once I’ve got my 1 year ncb and experience, that’s when I’ll look at upgrading the bike.

Cbull

4,483 posts

202 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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Complete double standards and just another way for them to rip us off. IMO they should consider the amount of NCB you've accumulated from car insurance. Yes it doesn't say how good of a rider you are but it does say that are an experienced road user and are more aware of any potential issues that may occur. More than a 16/17yo who has no idea of basic road rules.

white91

Original Poster:

31 posts

191 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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Updating the quote to allow for factory fitted immobiliser brings it down to £638 (I assume it has one of these) then next year its £334

croyde

26,507 posts

261 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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My bike was stolen in Jan. Worth about £1500.

Didn't dare claim as the impact on my car insurance and bike, if I get another, would have been too much to bear over the next 5 years.

Yet third party only, which I'd prefer to do with a low value vehicle, is more expensive.

WarnieV6GT

1,442 posts

230 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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I passed late last year and now ride an Aprillia 750 v twin. Insurance is £237 tpft, and my previous hornet 600 was a lot less. I have also had quotes for bikes such as gxsr1000's and even they came out at around £400.

It must be location that's buggering you surely ? unless your using it for commuting ?

croyde

26,507 posts

261 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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London, parked outside.

Need I say more.....

LuS1fer

43,562 posts

276 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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8 posts in 90 months. Top lurking.

DirtyHarley

478 posts

104 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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A fair bit depends on area and bike type: I had a good example of this when I was trying to decide which cruiser to go with. Living in Buckinghamshire I was quoted in excess of £2000 for a Triumph Bonneville America a few years back, but £180 for a Harley Sportster of the same year (guess which I went with!). About 6 months later a chap I know in Surrey quoted in excess of £3000 for a Harley Sportster, but a Bonneville America was £250 and was told the difference was due to what is stolen or wrecked most often in the general area. Kind of makes sense as he lives fairly close to Guildford Harley, whilst Hertfordshire Triumph is only a few miles from me.

As for the main question - I've not seen any companies accept car NCD for a bike or vice-versa, although a few years back I recall someone offering 1 year NCD on bikes for something like every 2 or 3 gained in a car but who it was, I cannot remember.
Good luck and hope you get something sorted!

white91

Original Poster:

31 posts

191 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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Tbh I might ring a few companies as 1 years NCD does halve the policy.

I live in Hinckley in Leicestershire, not exactly the bronx, I have a garage where the bike will be kept, I will not need cover for commuting, I will only ride about 4000 miles tops. I’ve also got use of a company car for work and any other travel.

I could get a cheaper bike for a year, which will probably help me get experience. I have done motocross and trials in the past so I’m not a total noob. I have been dreaming about a Daytona tho! I wish insurance companies had better systems to calculate risks.

white91

Original Poster:

31 posts

191 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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LuS1fer said:
8 posts in 90 months. Top lurking.
Made this account and forgot about it 90 months ago!

crofty1984

17,064 posts

235 months

Sunday 24th June 2018
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croyde said:
London, parked outside.

Need I say more.....
Is it still there?