'Best' handling cheap bike.
'Best' handling cheap bike.
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Rick1.8t

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1,463 posts

210 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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I know the concept of the 'best' handling bike is subjective but anyway....

I have been bitten by the bug after watching some Thundersport racing at Mallory park and am looking into a bit of tuition and local track-days now but dont want to take a brand new £8k bike out there, especially as a complete novice (Passed a few months ago and have 400 miles on a lovely new XSR900 so far), so....

If you were looking for a cheap bike for track days and the odd bit of road use (will still keep the XSR so that will cover most duties) what would you go for? the emphasis here being on ability in corners and not power - The CB500 bikes they used at Mallory looked like masses of fun with only 50bhp - As cheap as possible too, I can turn a spanner so not out of the question to do a bit of work.


anonymous-user

85 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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Rick1.8t said:
I know the concept of the 'best' handling bike is subjective but anyway....

I have been bitten by the bug after watching some Thundersport racing at Mallory park and am looking into a bit of tuition and local track-days now but dont want to take a brand new £8k bike out there, especially as a complete novice (Passed a few months ago and have 400 miles on a lovely new XSR900 so far), so....

If you were looking for a cheap bike for track days and the odd bit of road use (will still keep the XSR so that will cover most duties) what would you go for? the emphasis here being on ability in corners and not power - The CB500 bikes they used at Mallory looked like masses of fun with only 50bhp - As cheap as possible too, I can turn a spanner so not out of the question to do a bit of work.
Steel framed CBR600, cheap as chips and pretty tough.

Jazoli

9,697 posts

281 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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A cheap SV650 will do the job, or any £1500 sports 600, I wouldn't worry about the handling so much as you'll not come close to any bikes limits for a while, a Hornet or Fazer 600 handle well enough to have fun on a track.

PTF

4,456 posts

255 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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I've got a TT600 sitting idle that's worth around that money. Supposed to have terrific handling according to the road tests at the time, only let down by slightly snatchy fuelling.

Downside for track work would be sourcing a suitable replacement fairing.

PM me if it's of interest.

As others have said, probably top pick would be a CBR600 if you can find one as parts would be more easily available.

RizzoTheRat

29,096 posts

223 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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TRX?

MotorsportTom

3,343 posts

192 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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I'm bias because I am selling mine but GSXR 600's and 750's are a good steer. Very stable leant over imo.

Pm if you want details, Im not after much for it

Prof Prolapse

16,163 posts

221 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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yonex said:
Steel framed CBR600, cheap as chips and pretty tough.
You see the odd early (99-00) ally framed ones with ropey bodywork coming in at about a grand as well.

I think any budget bike is going to need a front fork refresh for track work, but with the CBR600Fs I'd definitely consider a set of springs to firm up that that front end. I'm ste on track but I found it very sloppy when you pushed on. That and I'd get a shorter turn throttle sleave (similar vintage R6 fits), as having to grip and re-grip to get WOT on track isn't helpful.

I like an SV650 as well. I think they're better value these days aren't they? If so I'd get one of those instead as CBR600Fs can be a bit overpriced... Unless you want to buy one off me of course. laugh







dern

14,055 posts

310 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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I was thinking about picking up something for this as well. I've been looking at sv650s but having chased a suzuki gsxr 600 around thruxton I'd look at one of those. It looked awesome, was slower on the straights than my blade but awesome in the corners. We were both novice riders so pinch of salt required but I was really impressed by it and there's plenty around for not much money.

Moulder

1,648 posts

243 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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ZXR400 or GSXR400?

Rick1.8t

Original Poster:

1,463 posts

210 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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A lot of love for the cb600 and sv650, thanks for the advice and bike offers, will get some tuition done (on their bikes) and start looking.

Maybe get one as a winter project and refresh the brakes and vitals myself.

As someone said, I won't get close to pushing the limits of the bike and it will be nice to learn the basics without fear of sending a nice new bike down the tarmac...

chris4652009

1,572 posts

115 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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RizzoTheRat said:
TRX?
Good shout

tomble22

604 posts

159 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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I've just picked up an unfaired SV650 for £600 and it's pretty good considering, condition wise. Getting back on a bike after about 5 years off and it's a good starting point.

Jazoli

9,697 posts

281 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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chris4652009 said:
RizzoTheRat said:
TRX?
Good shout
Nope, unless you are six stone wet they are far far too soft with forks like cocktail sticks, plus the engines are fragile, I've owned one and it'd be right at the bottom of the list for use as a track bike

RizzoTheRat

29,096 posts

223 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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Interesting, I know a couple of people that use TRX's as track bikes, and several people with crazy miles on the 850 engines. What died on your engine?

Cbull

4,483 posts

202 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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A good condition ZX6R or Thundercat/R6 can be had for a tad over £1k. Surely they'd be on the list potentials.

chris4652009

1,572 posts

115 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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Jazoli said:
Nope, unless you are six stone wet they are far far too soft with forks like cocktail sticks, plus the engines are fragile, I've owned one and it'd be right at the bottom of the list for use as a track bike
Wow, what did you break in the engine? they are bombproof

sjtscott

4,215 posts

262 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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chris4652009 said:
Wow, what did you break in the engine? they are bombproof
Also interested to know.
Only thing that went wrong with mine, the Cam Chain tensioner, which rattled the timing chain like a goodun around 5k revs.. but this seems to affect multiple model years on CBR6s. I had the F4i (as the americans call it) last of the proper CBR600Fs and it had adjustable suspension too being a 2003. Later F models had that removed on the front forks.

Pothole

34,367 posts

313 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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Triumph's TT600/Speed Four was the best handling middleweight of the early 2000s.

black-k1

12,809 posts

260 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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As you've not long passed your test long ago I would expect you would find it difficult to identify if any of the bikes mentioned are "better handling" than any of the others. Better to choose a bike based on condition etc. but save a bit of your budget to get forks/shock sorted and to replace any worn wheel, steering, swing arm bearings.

Rick1.8t

Original Poster:

1,463 posts

210 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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Agreed - I wasn't so much suggesting I wanted the very finest in handling more ideas of what is available at the budget end of things (so therefore old) with the emphasis on cornering rather than power, comfort, commuting ability etc.

I think as you say it may be best to just get something I know needs a refresh rather than a 'nice' one that realistically needs it anyway before going near a track.

I certainly don't fancy taking my XSR near the track at the moment, I just want something cheap to learn the ropes on.



Edited by Rick1.8t on Monday 25th June 14:32