Bike security that will get used ... better than almax?
Bike security that will get used ... better than almax?
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anonymous-user

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85 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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Prof Prolapse

16,163 posts

221 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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Usual caveats re: portable angle grinders withstanding...

I always argue to get uncroppable when I get suckered into these threads, as croppers are the quietest way to break a chain. But a 2m uncroppable chain weighs the best part of what 15kg? That's before you get to the lock which has to be enormous and weighs another 2kg. That's like what, a third the bodyweight of a petite lady? Not really portable.

Resting on the ground is generally bad idea as harder chains are obviously more brittle, and can also freeze sprays can be used etc. but personally I'm not convinced it's what is used by the scotes to liberate bikes. The simple solution is just to wrap the excess chain around the wheel/spoke/anything.

I'd stick with the chain you have to be honest, I don't think your circumstances will let you step up to anything more meaningful chain wise. Perhaps consider things like U-clamps, alarmed disc locks, etc. But I don't know much about the merits of those personally, but an alarmed disc lock strikes me as a very good balance between deterrent, alarm, and light weight. Especially when used with a chain, albeit a weaker one.



julian64

14,325 posts

285 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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Pretty much nothing takes more than a few minutes with a battery powered angle grinder. The only trick left is to make it inaccessible for grinding such as flush disc locks. Even then you're just increasing the time required to nick rather than prevent.

Best to find a close lockup.

Cardinal Hips

323 posts

103 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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anonymous said:
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What about a noose chain? It eliminates a decent amount of weight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgaC9_-YsRk

I have 2 chains from pragmasis, one noose and one normal, and I wish they were both Noose chains.

Regarding positioning, putting the chain between the bike and a wall / anchor is the best, preferably off the ground as tight as possible. I have made cuts in my chains sleeves so I can put an end link through to form a nice tight fit against the frame.

https://securityforbikes.com/motorcycle-security-a...

The only thing that lets me sleep at night is knowing that my bikes in the grand scheme of things are low value and there are much more expensive, easier targets in the area with minimal to zero security on them. Make it the hardest thing to steal in the vicinity and you should be ok. Unless they REALLY want it.

Edited by Cardinal Hips on Wednesday 4th July 11:12

Dog Star

17,643 posts

199 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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I see you live in London/environs.

Scooter.

I think it's going to get stolen. Question is how long.

Sickening reality frown

Lazermilk

3,523 posts

112 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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Disk lock with a built in alarm is maybe worth a try, may not stop them but at least they make a lot of noise when moved on top of the bike alarm. I have a Xena one... Although here in Vienna I rarely use it and never had an issue yet! biggrin

Sea Demon

1,170 posts

244 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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I'm not saying that there inst a serious theft problem in London but just because there is a scooter parked in London or any other bike for that matter, doesnt automatically mean its going to be stolen - I've parked my Fireblade in bays and car parks for the last 2 years and never had a problem.

Obviously if you park something thats quite fancy in a bay, it stands more chance of attracting attention.