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So, after losing the bike I had a deposit on the search goes on. Are forged wheels worth paying a premium for, a set of BST carbons are £2.5K and likely a step up? The 2015 onwards looks like the ‘one’, but after watching a few Von Grumble vids I’m drawn to the HP4 as well, slightly older, different ABS setup, a proper SE, is it a better option for a tart like me? Chatting to a mate of mine who races them he is adamant that the 2015 engine is the strongest but the earlier chassis is more nimble. He built a hybrid and reckons it’s the best of both worlds. I’m not about to piss about with that as I want the active suspension and it’s mostly a road bike.
Cheers all.
Cheers all.
That’s a bugger.
Can’t imagine you’d be disappointed with either. I liked the idea of a HP4 and found a nice one that was very tempting. it was a HP4 or a 3rd gen bike with the Sport pack for me, Just went for the cleaner bike that was available at the right time (form a known owner). Pros for the later bike are the smoother electronics (apparently) and off course pros for the HP4 are it’s more special.
Can’t imagine you’d be disappointed with either. I liked the idea of a HP4 and found a nice one that was very tempting. it was a HP4 or a 3rd gen bike with the Sport pack for me, Just went for the cleaner bike that was available at the right time (form a known owner). Pros for the later bike are the smoother electronics (apparently) and off course pros for the HP4 are it’s more special.
A BMW FFS.
Just don't do it.
As regards the carbon wheels, I shelled out on some for my 17 GSXR. They didn't lose much weight, I can't honestly say they made much difference, but hey-ho.
Trouble is, when you buy them, they are incapable of telling you exactly how much weight you are saving so you can make an informed decision. I think they are trading on the past, where it was almost guaranteed they would make a difference because the original wheels were so heavy.
When you want the best part of 3K, you'd think you might at least have the decency to know exactly how much the weight saving is, but the cynic in me says that the weight of wheels on current bikes is such that it is better to keep the blinkers on.
Just don't do it.
As regards the carbon wheels, I shelled out on some for my 17 GSXR. They didn't lose much weight, I can't honestly say they made much difference, but hey-ho.
Trouble is, when you buy them, they are incapable of telling you exactly how much weight you are saving so you can make an informed decision. I think they are trading on the past, where it was almost guaranteed they would make a difference because the original wheels were so heavy.
When you want the best part of 3K, you'd think you might at least have the decency to know exactly how much the weight saving is, but the cynic in me says that the weight of wheels on current bikes is such that it is better to keep the blinkers on.
cmaguire said:
A BMW FFS.
Just don't do it.
As regards the carbon wheels, I shelled out on some for my 17 GSXR. They didn't lose much weight, I can't honestly say they made much difference, but hey-ho.
Trouble is, when you buy them, they are incapable of telling you exactly how much weight you are saving so you can make an informed decision. I think they are trading on the past, where it was almost guaranteed they would make a difference because the original wheels were so heavy.
When you want the best part of 3K, you'd think you might at least have the decency to know exactly how much the weight saving is, but the cynic in me says that the weight of wheels on current bikes is such that it is better to keep the blinkers on.
Did you weight the factory GSXR alloys by any chance? What was the weight of those things? And how much mass did you manage to save going to carbon wheels? Just don't do it.
As regards the carbon wheels, I shelled out on some for my 17 GSXR. They didn't lose much weight, I can't honestly say they made much difference, but hey-ho.
Trouble is, when you buy them, they are incapable of telling you exactly how much weight you are saving so you can make an informed decision. I think they are trading on the past, where it was almost guaranteed they would make a difference because the original wheels were so heavy.
When you want the best part of 3K, you'd think you might at least have the decency to know exactly how much the weight saving is, but the cynic in me says that the weight of wheels on current bikes is such that it is better to keep the blinkers on.
Rode the 765RS this am, now I’m totally confused. Its just as quick on the road and you can really cane it. Speeds are more sensible and it sounds epic, it’s like a modern LC, howls over 8K. Comfortable and really, really liked the balance of it. Much easier to change a line than the litre bikes and just as plush, the font end in particular have loads of confidence. The only negative was the lack of a blipper.
I’ve got to decide today really which way to go. Buy the S1000RR and get it out of my system or just grab a new 765?
I’ve got to decide today really which way to go. Buy the S1000RR and get it out of my system or just grab a new 765?
yonex said:
Rode the 765RS this am, now I’m totally confused. Its just as quick on the road and you can really cane it. Speeds are more sensible and it sounds epic, it’s like a modern LC, howls over 8K. Comfortable and really, really liked the balance of it. Much easier to change a line than the litre bikes and just as plush, the font end in particular have loads of confidence. The only negative was the lack of a blipper.
I’ve got to decide today really which way to go. Buy the S1000RR and get it out of my system or just grab a new 765?
I tested a 765RS after coming back from the Manx last year, had a wobbler and doubted myslef, wanted a slower bike and I found it everything you said however I know if I had gone for it I would have missed the sheer accelerative power it had. I’ve got to decide today really which way to go. Buy the S1000RR and get it out of my system or just grab a new 765?
Get the RR lol. Btw I agree the 765RS is the nicest front end feel I've ever had from a bike it was unbelievably plush and so so confidence inspiring after just a couple of miles on a bike I've never been on before.....that is a huge plus in its favour. Noise made me miss my Daytona but I can't not have my R1s rumble in my life. Besides I'd end up giving the triumph a pink frame and white and grey panels....
knitware said:
yonex said:
Are forged wheels worth paying a premium for, a set of BST carbons are £2.5K and likely a step up? it’s mostly a road bike.
Cheers all.
If it's mainly a road bike you won't appreciate the difference of lighter wheels, a very quick track rider probably would.Cheers all.
However, they're not the most robust and having seen one of mine break on a tyre changing machine, I'd never run them again.
A set of OZ Piega (or similar) are 95% as light, and miles more robust - Especially on the crappy potholed roads we have in the uk
Write yourself a plan. This year xxx bike, 2019 will be xxx bike. No bike is forever, buy one, enjoy it, thrash it and sell it - move on. If you take reasonable care of it you'll get most of your money back next year. Biking it about a thrill, the experience and excitement of the journey, not the finances. Be sensible and experience a lot of bikes ! All new bikes are great - there isn't a bad one amongst them, all offer different experiences - just different, but all are mega compared to buying a car for the same price ! 
So. A day of bikes
The RS was ace, I’m still keen, we’ll see. The S that was for sale is 11500 and 2015 and 7K miles. Looks great, all good there.
But...
Visited BMW and they’ve offered a new one for £189 a month, no deposit. I know, I know, finance etc. The thing is I want to change it next year. 9-10 months in there’s enough equity in the bike to either px to clear the balance or trade against a new one. I’m really interested in the new RR. It’s going to be nuts. £1800 for a new bike, the used one would likely depreciate similarly and could need tyres etc
Seems to good to be true? I also really like the latest motorsport colours.
The RS was ace, I’m still keen, we’ll see. The S that was for sale is 11500 and 2015 and 7K miles. Looks great, all good there.
But...
Visited BMW and they’ve offered a new one for £189 a month, no deposit. I know, I know, finance etc. The thing is I want to change it next year. 9-10 months in there’s enough equity in the bike to either px to clear the balance or trade against a new one. I’m really interested in the new RR. It’s going to be nuts. £1800 for a new bike, the used one would likely depreciate similarly and could need tyres etc
Seems to good to be true? I also really like the latest motorsport colours.
You know the trouble. It’s a bit like the Modern vs Classic thread.... All bikes are fun so it’s very hard to pick one.
I did about 300 Miles on my S1000RR today. The extra time in the saddle made a few things more obvious. It’s very, very stiff, which is great when you’re rolling it side to side through the twisties but it was a bit much on bumpier roads when I wasn’t pressing on. The power and the brakes and the steering though.... They’re wonderful, it’s a hell of a bike. I am going to get something softer to have along side it for when I fancy a potter instead of a blast.
I did about 300 Miles on my S1000RR today. The extra time in the saddle made a few things more obvious. It’s very, very stiff, which is great when you’re rolling it side to side through the twisties but it was a bit much on bumpier roads when I wasn’t pressing on. The power and the brakes and the steering though.... They’re wonderful, it’s a hell of a bike. I am going to get something softer to have along side it for when I fancy a potter instead of a blast.
I got the demo one airborne and it seemed to just land and sort it out. There’s a massive difference in sport and race, I feel comfortable in race, throttle and the feel just seems like the sweet spot? The suspension is amazing, it just copes with crap surfaces, really, really good.
The RS might be what you need, or bobber. As for me and my one bike it has to be the S1000, I’m blown away by it.
The RS might be what you need, or bobber. As for me and my one bike it has to be the S1000, I’m blown away by it.
yonex said:
I got the demo one airborne and it seemed to just land and sort it out. There’s a massive difference in sport and race, I feel comfortable in race, throttle and the feel just seems like the sweet spot? The suspension is amazing, it just copes with crap surfaces, really, really good.
The RS might be what you need, or bobber. As for me and my one bike it has to be the S1000, I’m blown away by it.
But which of the other 1000s did you try?The RS might be what you need, or bobber. As for me and my one bike it has to be the S1000, I’m blown away by it.
cmaguire said:
But which of the other 1000s did you try?
I rode the new Fireblade, good but I felt engine was a bit weak, sounds daft with that sort of power but just my opinion. The Suzuki, for me, not really finished well enough. The R1 would hurt me on the roads. Ducati V4, it’s a BBQ, and too much as road bike. I love the Aprillia Factory, but sod having to work with the dealers.I like BMW service, it’s a big part of ownership. All litre bikes are better than me, so we are wiring within margins. I’m also betting that the new S1000RR will wipe the floor with everything, that’s my plan, if not, I’ll buy something else.
I’d like to ride as many bikes as I can now. But to actually live with them for 6-8 months. This deal appears to enable me to do that as they are trying to offload stock with the new model arriving.
Can I ask why you’re not keen on the S1000RR?
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