2019 BMW S1000RR

[Ho Lee Kau]

Interesting!
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/2019...

But why can't they cover the collector a-la-2016 model? Is there a reason for this, like heat management?

[Dakkon]

All the big boys are producing updated 2019 versions of their bikes, new Fireblade, Ninja and now a new RR, and all promising in excess of 200bhp, will be interesting to see how they compare.

[knitware]

Dakkon said:

All the big boys are producing updated 2019 versions of their bikes, new Fireblade, Ninja and now a new RR, and all promising in excess of 200bhp, will be interesting to see how they compare.

My local BMW manager has seen the new bike, he attended presentations a few months ago for a high level review of the new bike. When asked he was careful not to share any details, nothing, but he did tell me that the new bike is nut and bolt all new, chassis, engine etc and when launched it will make an impact like the first RR achieved a decade ago.

I of course wait to see the details but he suggested revolutionary tech and the bike is beyond another level. I imaging the price will be too.

From the render I also see the navigation wheel, hope it will retain heated grips, cruse control and a fuel gauge.

Edited by knitware on Friday 7th September 15:54

[Rick1.8t]

I imagine its going to be well north of £20k for one of these.

Look forward to seeing what the they do with the R too.

[Walter Sobchak]

knitware said:

My local BMW manager has seen the new bike, he attended presentations a few months ago for a high level review of the new bike. When asked he was careful not to share any details, nothing, but he did tell me that the new bike is nut and bolt all new, chassis, engine etc and when launched it will make an impact like the first RR achieved a decade ago.

I of course wait to see the details but he suggested revolutionary tech and the bike is beyond another level. I imaging the price will be too.

From the render I also see the navigation wheel, hope it will retain heated grips, cruse control and a fuel gauge.

Edited by knitware on Friday 7th September 15:54

I don’t doubt it will be an amazing, very capable bike and I like the look of it too, saying that, I doubt it will be a real ‘game changer’ like the original was as it caught the Japanese napping at it took them a while to catch up.
I’ve got a Panigale V4, is it a fantastic bike, of course, but it’s by no means the game changer the press said it was, its impossible to buy a bad modern superbike, they’re all just that good.
I’m looking forward to hearing more about the new S1000RR though and I bet it will sell well.

[phil4]

No more lopsided headlights... puts that back on my list of wants. Shame that the price looks to be a heck of a lot.

[Ho Lee Kau]

phil4 said:

No more lopsided headlights... puts that back on my list of wants. Shame that the price looks to be a heck of a lot.

I was thinking the same. Those lights WERE BMW S1000R(R). Now it looks like any Fireblade/Panigale...

[Gavia]

That will be a phenomenal bike. A ground up rebuild tends to produce either a superb bike, or a bit of a mess, I can’t see BMW messing it up though.

Any guesses on price? I reckon just shy of £20,000, but extra to get all the goodies.

[TwoStrokeNut]

Maybe this fits in with the rumours of a factory beemer WSB effort next year.

[Zarco]

Ho Lee Kau said:

phil4 said:

No more lopsided headlights... puts that back on my list of wants. Shame that the price looks to be a heck of a lot.

I was thinking the same. Those lights WERE BMW S1000R(R). Now it looks like any Fireblade/Panigale...

Are you not thinking the opposite?

Personally I didn't mind the lop sided lights. At least it was distinctive.

[Ho Lee Kau]

Zarco said:

Ho Lee Kau said:

phil4 said:

No more lopsided headlights... puts that back on my list of wants. Shame that the price looks to be a heck of a lot.

I was thinking the same. Those lights WERE BMW S1000R(R). Now it looks like any Fireblade/Panigale...

Are you not thinking the opposite?

Personally I didn't mind the lop sided lights. At least it was distinctive.

I liked the lop-sided lights right from the start, there was something HAL2000 about them.
Sad to see them go.

[Gavia]

I’m not convinced the fairings are what we’ll see, it looks a bit too generic for BMW and possibly just a cover up for what will really be coming. The patents, or whatever, will be more relevant to the mechanicals underneath.

[Zarco]

Gavia said:

I’m not convinced the fairings are what we’ll see, it looks a bit too generic for BMW and possibly just a cover up for what will really be coming. The patents, or whatever, will be more relevant to the mechanicals underneath.

I think you may well be right on that.

[btdk5]

Walter Sobchak said:

knitware said:

My local BMW manager has seen the new bike, he attended presentations a few months ago for a high level review of the new bike. When asked he was careful not to share any details, nothing, but he did tell me that the new bike is nut and bolt all new, chassis, engine etc and when launched it will make an impact like the first RR achieved a decade ago.

I of course wait to see the details but he suggested revolutionary tech and the bike is beyond another level. I imaging the price will be too.

From the render I also see the navigation wheel, hope it will retain heated grips, cruse control and a fuel gauge.

Edited by knitware on Friday 7th September 15:54

I don’t doubt it will be an amazing, very capable bike and I like the look of it too, saying that, I doubt it will be a real ‘game changer’ like the original was as it caught the Japanese napping at it took them a while to catch up.
I’ve got a Panigale V4, is it a fantastic bike, of course, but it’s by no means the game changer the press said it was, its impossible to buy a bad modern superbike, they’re all just that good.
I’m looking forward to hearing more about the new S1000RR though and I bet it will sell well.

Is it possible to make as big of an impact now? I suppose we’ll have to wait and see.

People can’t be asking for too much more from the top bikes now, hopefully it will be all about getting the package spot on, amazing brake feel, all the tech, obviously a stonking engine etc

[Shadow R1]

Thinking about it, an area that's remained the same is gearboxes.
Yes they have quick shifters and down blippers, however it still attached to a conventional gearbox.

Yamaha tested a dual clutch on the 2015 R1 but said it increased weight to much to be a viable option.

Maybe Bmw have an answer to that, or not and it's the same.

[UnluckyTimmeh]

Rick1.8t said:

I imagine its going to be well north of £20k for one of these.

Look forward to seeing what the they do with the R too.

We don't think it'll be that high. We're hoping for a £18.5k max but then all of the goodies taking it over £20k, same as the current model.

I reckon a starting at £17k

Just a retailer hunch.

[phil4]

btdk5 said:

Is it possible to make as big of an impact now? I suppose we’ll have to wait and see.

I guess that depends on what sort of area we're talking. I remember when the early S1000RR were out with heated grips and I was surprised to see them on a bike like that.

If we extend that, then haven't KTM recently been looking at auto-cruise control (keeps distance)? Honda already do DCT gearboxes albeit on different bike type.

So perhaps it'll bundle those sorts of things in? As to it's more direct "sport" aim... if they can achieve a step change, fair play.

[RemyMartin81D]

If that is how it will look then it's so generic. It's assymetrical lights are it's signature look that ties it in to the entire BMW motorrad look. I always liked that.

Interested to see the final product.

[R1 Dave]

I'm really interested in this, I've had my R1 for 2 years now so next summer I might be tempted to switch. I hope the price isn't too close to £20k though as that's just madness for a bike!

[castex]

Lacks asymmetry. Shame!