Troy Corser gets a bit cheeky with John McGuinness-Goodwood
Troy Corser gets a bit cheeky with John McGuinness-Goodwood
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FourWheelDrift

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92,382 posts

315 months

Sunday 9th September 2018
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Gavia

7,627 posts

122 months

Sunday 9th September 2018
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Utterly disgraceful riding, reminds of that maniac Fenati earlier today. Could’ve killed McGuinness with such a reckless approach. Deserves a ban for that


















None of the above should be taken seriously.

Tango13

10,174 posts

207 months

Sunday 9th September 2018
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Yeah but The Battle of Britain and 1966 and all that...

Was that BMW a right hand gear change and how many gear does it have?

FourWheelDrift

Original Poster:

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315 months

Sunday 9th September 2018
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Tango13 said:
Yeah but The Battle of Britain and 1966 and all that...

Was that BMW a right hand gear change and how many gear does it have?
http://www.mbike.com/bmw/r57/1929

podman

9,086 posts

271 months

Sunday 9th September 2018
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Fantastic spectacle, what a wonderful sounding thing that BMW is too.

Birky_41

4,655 posts

215 months

Sunday 9th September 2018
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That was brilliant to watch! That old 1920s BMW was friggin quick

Rubin215

4,201 posts

187 months

Sunday 9th September 2018
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Brilliant to see guys racing old bikes flat-stick and not treating them like museum pieces!

gareth_r

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268 months

Sunday 9th September 2018
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Birky_41 said:
That was brilliant to watch! That old 1920s BMW was friggin quick
I suspect that it's a bloody sight quicker than it was in 1929!

cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

149 months

Monday 10th September 2018
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Fantastic, always great to see these old bikes having the wheels ridden off them. Great display of riding too, where keeping momentum is everything.

Deranged Granny

2,323 posts

199 months

Monday 10th September 2018
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Birky_41 said:
That was brilliant to watch! That old 1920s BMW was friggin quick
He was getting the bike into some proper shapes out of Woodcote - not surprising given the rigid rear end! Very impressive riding on an 89 year old bike.

McGuinness was also noticeably slower than his teammate.

cbmotorsport

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149 months

Monday 10th September 2018
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Deranged Granny said:
He was getting the bike into some proper shapes out of Woodcote - not surprising given the rigid rear end! Very impressive riding on an 89 year old bike.

McGuinness was also noticeably slower than his teammate.
Having just recovered from his injuries, I don't blame him. No point risking another crash in what is essentially an exhibition race.

joema

2,755 posts

210 months

Monday 10th September 2018
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Rigid suspension. Changing gear with his left hand when the stick is located on the right side and flat out. What a rider.

He was revving the st out of it in the paddock in the evening too.

Deranged Granny

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Monday 10th September 2018
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cbmotorsport said:
Having just recovered from his injuries, I don't blame him. No point risking another crash in what is essentially an exhibition race.
Agreed; sort of why I made the observation.

gareth_r

6,784 posts

268 months

Monday 10th September 2018
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The commentators seem to be confused about whether the bike is a 1929 R57 Kompressor or a 1936 R5 Kompressor.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=llMFtQb4lLs#

I think the 1936 bike has telescopic forks and a foot change, so it must be the '29.



In this clip, they say that the 1929 bike has 75bhp. If that's true, it explains why the BMW just strolled past the Manx that John McGuinness was riding.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h1VEwIKgyGM


Just realised that one of the commentators in the first clip is Stuart Graham, who raced all sorts, from the works Suzuki 50cc twins (350bhp/litre, a 500rpm power band, and a 14-speed gearbox!) to Chevrolet Camaros. His father was Les Graham DFC, who was a Lancaster pilot in World War 2, the 1949 500cc world champion riding the AJS "Porcupine" twin, and who was killed on the MV four at the 1953 TT.

srob

12,560 posts

269 months

Monday 10th September 2018
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The most amazing thing about it is the hand change gearbox.

I’ve never seen anyone use a hand change bike in anger like that in my 30+ years of going to vintage bike racing.

Almost all vintage race bikes (in fact all but this BMW in this country!) that are still used competitively have now been converted to foot change. My dad stopped racing his vintage (ie pre-31) AJS in the 1960s as he was one of two still running hand change and he said he had no chance against foot change and couldn’t afford to change the gearbox to a foot change/positive stop gearbox.

Back in era many riders had all sorts of tricks like Corser was doing reaching across he tank, plus ‘blipper’ triggers on the gear lever and all sorts.

Hats off to BMW for letting these bikes race like this and hats off to Troy Corser for having a go on a hand change bike smile

timbo999

1,547 posts

286 months

Monday 10th September 2018
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We watched that race at Madgewick and the Norton was taking the most beautiful single line through the double apexes... but Troy was at least as entertaining especially as he was grounding the exhaust over the bump... both brilliant to watch.

BowieMS

37 posts

113 months

Monday 10th September 2018
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Fantastic watch. Corser has balls of steel.

That BMW reminds me my fork oil needs doing though...

Clinton Baptiste

657 posts

213 months

Monday 10th September 2018
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Thought he was gonna grab his brake for a minute! laugh