track day helmet - with one of these inbuilt sun visors

[3nduro]

so getting a new lid for track days

my current shoei has one of these inbuilt sunvisors ...

is that ok for track ... or better to get one with a tinted/clear visor dedicated to the conditions at the time

a lot of the ~£200 helmets have these built in these days so forces me up a bracket !

[stew-STR160]

Helmets with inbuilt visors are generally road biased. Sure, safe enough, but would be heavier, and probably a bit less peripheral vision.

I would look for a more track focussed helmet. Plenty around for not a great deal of money, and some come with tinted visors.

[MrGman]

As above, I'd just go for a lighter helmet and just get a tinted visor.

[Jazoli]

stew-STR160 said:

Helmets with inbuilt visors are generally road biased. Sure, safe enough, but would be heavier, and probably a bit less peripheral vision.

I would look for a more track focussed helmet. Plenty around for not a great deal of money, and some come with tinted visors.

My AGV k5-S is not heavy at all and has a drop down visor, it would make an ideal 'track helmet' if there is such a thing??? I used to use my old HJC IS-16 on track too, that also wasn't too heavy, if you have to have a new one (and I don't understand why you do if you have a perfectly good Shoei) just buy what you fancy, what fits and what's in budget.

[308mate]

A flip down sun visor feature is a massive help, in any situation surely? . I’ve not used one but I assume the track Is another place where it’s very convenient because you can instantly adjust to conditions and be in the optimum state for all conditions.
The problem is tha all those type of helmets look utter cack. So it’s a no from me.

[stew-STR160]

Jazoli said:

stew-STR160 said:

Helmets with inbuilt visors are generally road biased. Sure, safe enough, but would be heavier, and probably a bit less peripheral vision.

I would look for a more track focussed helmet. Plenty around for not a great deal of money, and some come with tinted visors.

My AGV k5-S is not heavy at all and has a drop down visor, it would make an ideal 'track helmet' if there is such a thing??? I used to use my old HJC IS-16 on track too, that also wasn't too heavy, if you have to have a new one (and I don't understand why you do if you have a perfectly good Shoei) just buy what you fancy, what fits and what's in budget.

I have a K5, I also have an AGV Veloce. The Veloce is much lighter, and has a wider opening for better visibility. I've used both on track, but the K5 is now sat gathreing dust.

[airsafari87]

If you're a fan of Shoei helmets already and are wanting a visor for bright and dark conditions, just buy another Shoei helmet with one of their photocromatic visors. They really are brilliant.

[podman]

airsafari87 said:

If you're a fan of Shoei helmets already and are wanting a visor for bright and dark conditions, just buy another Shoei helmet with one of their photocromatic visors. They really are brilliant.

Ive read mixed reviews on these visors(and the auto tinting pinlocks) , many saying the visor doesnt get THAT dark Vs a "proper" dark visor, any input appreciated as I am also looking to replace my lid and have been finding the lids, like my Mrs HJC, with an integrated dark visor very appealing.

[DanGPR]

For track use I'd be looking at a proper race lid with a clear and dark visor for different conditions. Both with Pinlock to stop fogging.

Shoei X-Spirit 2/3
AGV Corsa
Bell Star
HJC RPHA-11
Arai RX7

Go to a decent seller and try at least 2/3 on, buy the one that fits your head best.

[Wildfire]

I have the X-Spirit 3 with the photochromatic visor.

I find it very good. My Schuberth SR1 dark visor is far too dark for most occasions.

The normal dark tint Shoei has a green tint where as the photochromatic visor is more grey.

It is very helpful not having to change visits on long rides. The only downside is the cost £150!!

[airsafari87]

I've used a Shoei photocromatic visor with a clear pinlock for just over a year now.

Previously I have always used the traditional clear and dark visors and swapped them over as needed.

It probably doesn't go as dark as the very darkest of visors, but it has never left me wishing that it would go any darker than it does.

The only niggle I have with it is that in foggy conditions it darkens down when it should really be clear, but I can understand why that happens.

[Charliecloud]

308mate said:

A flip down sun visor feature is a massive help, in any situation surely? . I’ve not used one but I assume the track Is another place where it’s very convenient because you can instantly adjust to conditions and be in the optimum state for all conditions.
The problem is tha all those type of helmets look utter cack. So it’s a no from me.

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'Utter Cack ' - I don't think so

[3nduro]

DanGPR said:

For track use I'd be looking at a proper race lid with a clear and dark visor for different conditions. Both with Pinlock to stop fogging.

Shoei X-Spirit 2/3
AGV Corsa
Bell Star
HJC RPHA-11
Arai RX7

Go to a decent seller and try at least 2/3 on, buy the one that fits your head best.

cheers for these pointers

[3nduro]

thanks for the help and ended up with a HJC RPHA-11 last year and got a dark visor

half way thru portimao the cheek pad worked loose and never bother to fit it back properly .. i know i know ....

any way back on track soon so need to sort this

anyone know about these hjc ?

it has some weird red clips ... which i cant work out how to refix



tried to slide the cheek pad in to clip but it doesnt look right ...manual doesnt have any help at all

have emailed them but keen to see if anyone else knows

[SAS Tom]

Pull the red part out of the other red part. They are male and female and the two parts are still pressed together. Once out slide it back in the cheek pad and press the pad back in place.

[Baldchap]

Friend had the end of his nose almost entirely removed by a HJC internal visor.

[SAS Tom]

That’s not something I’ve thought of but would make sense as some HJC’s have the internal visor lock in place. Most other brands just push back up.

[Zarco]

Baldchap said:

Friend had the end of his nose almost entirely removed by a HJC internal visor.

Nasty.

Even looking like Robocop isn't worth that.

[Triaguar]

Baldchap said:

Friend had the end of his nose almost entirely removed by a HJC internal visor.

Make this two. Not even track day I just put mine on with visor down nearly lost my nose. I find them really useful for road. But I would think an off on track with the visor down would result in the loss of half your head never mind the old schemozzle

[dern]

Baldchap said:

Friend had the end of his nose almost entirely removed by a HJC internal visor.

How?