Motocross Bikes?
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RossiT

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345 posts

237 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Hello,

I've been without a bike for a few years now, previously had a Fireblade, SP2 & R1's.

I don't think I'll get another road bike but quite fancy a motocross bike as I have plenty of tracks near by.

I originally had a budget of up to £3000 but it seems I could get a new bike for just over £5000, can anyone give me any suggestions, advice and tips.

At the moment, I'm looking at the CRF450R & KTM 450, I have no plans to use it on the road.

Many Thanks




telecat

8,528 posts

272 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Take a look at the 2-stroke bikes out there as well. They are easier to ride and maintain usually and are welcome at all Moto-X tracks.

Joe5y

1,638 posts

214 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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I've had a bunch of random £1,500 - £3,000 MX bikes in recent years. Yam's and KTM's mainly. Only advice that I can give is, get a road legal one, even a daytime only one. It makes life so much easier for when you want to get away from the tracks and hit the green lanes.

Don't buy new - you will bin it every time you go out!

Blackpuddin

19,544 posts

236 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Might be out of your budget but the Yam WR250 is a fabulous offroader and easy to ride. Plus you can get a road-legal version. That or a biggish EXC KTM four-stroke would be my choice.

dibblecorse

7,657 posts

223 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Didn't realise people bought these, I though you just robbed someones garage for one ???

Freakuk

4,869 posts

182 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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4 stroke 250's are more than enough IMO, I had a Katoom 450 EXC some years ago (as it was cheap/available at the time), it was a brute of a thing... loved it, caked in mud it soon became heavy and energy sapping.

Joe5y

1,638 posts

214 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Blackpuddin said:
Might be out of your budget but the Yam WR250 is a fabulous offroader and easy to ride. Plus you can get a road-legal version. That or a biggish EXC KTM four-stroke would be my choice.
I'd second this. Had two, great bikes!

Last one was a KTM EXC 250F - hated it!

anonymous-user

85 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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First question id ask yourself, do you have any dirt riding experience? If not much then 450 isn’t the best place to start IMO

2nd Q, how fit are you? Dirt bikes require a level of fitness from reasonable to full on athlete level. Motocross is extremely taxing on the body. A 450 exacerbates this fact and you will get yourself into trouble very quickly as you burn out mid session.

With those things in mind, I’d personally be choosing a ktm 350 excf

Best of all worlds

obscene

5,180 posts

216 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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DoubleTime said:
First question id ask yourself, do you have any dirt riding experience? If not much then 450 isn’t the best place to start IMO

2nd Q, how fit are you? Dirt bikes require a level of fitness from reasonable to full on athlete level. Motocross is extremely taxing on the body. A 450 exacerbates this fact and you will get yourself into trouble very quickly as you burn out mid session.

With those things in mind, I’d personally be choosing a ktm 350 excf

Best of all worlds
SO MUCH THIS!!!!!

1. My dumbass went and bought a KTM 450 SXF, and it was too much. Should have just got a 125/250 to learn on. I didn't really have time to go out on it and learn to MX so I sold it but if I were to try again I'd definitely get a smaller bike you can ring the neck of instead of tickle the throttle.

2. Agreed. It's very physically taxing, you'll be gasping after a good lap or 2 if you're new to it.

gazzarose

1,176 posts

164 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Another vote for a ktm 350, either in SX motocross flavour or EXC enduro Road reg'd.

I had a EXCf250 for just over 3 years up until June and for the slow forest riding I was doing was great, easy to ride andlight enough to pick up everytime I dropped it, but on a mx track I did have to ring its neck to get the best out of it.

In June I changed it for a EXCf 350 and imo is the perfect alrounder. It does the slow stuff brilliantly, not really any heavier than the 250 and nice and nimble, but open it up and it's an animal (it annoys me when people say stuff like that, but it truly does go a bit wild). I've had it on its back wheel at over 60mph and will drift round fire road bends and the twitch of a wrist. I havnt tried it on a MX track yet but it should be brilliant. Carioli won the World or European championship, I can't remember which, against boys on 450s and I think a lot of the reason is its not so brutal in the bottom end so doesn't wear you out so much, but can then be rev'd like a 125 for the fast stuff.


anonymous-user

85 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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obscene said:
SO MUCH THIS!!!!!

1. My dumbass went and bought a KTM 450 SXF, and it was too much. Should have just got a 125/250 to learn on. I didn't really have time to go out on it and learn to MX so I sold it but if I were to try again I'd definitely get a smaller bike you can ring the neck of instead of tickle the throttle.

2. Agreed. It's very physically taxing, you'll be gasping after a good lap or 2 if you're new to it.
Could be worse, you could have bought a CR500 like a guy I worked with many moons ago. Scared himself silly on first outing and punted it on. laugh

chunder27

2,309 posts

239 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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Bit of advice?

Go tot eh Dirt Bike Show at Stoneleigh this weekend, you will be able to get a bunch of advice from people there

moanthebairns

19,176 posts

229 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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dibblecorse said:
Didn't realise people bought these, I though you just robbed someones garage for one ???
Exactly the reason I haven't got one yet rolleyes I've got to piss about on a mountain bike to get any sort of bike fill now in winter confused

Cardinal Hips

323 posts

103 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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obscene said:
It's very physically taxing, you'll be gasping after a good lap or 2 if you're new to it.
Coming from a background of heavy cycling, including downhill I thought, ahh yeah, it'll be no bother on a mx bike, don't have to pedal, just twist the throttle and stand up...

How wrong was I..... It shocked me just how knackered I was after a pretty short session. At one point I didn't think I'd make it back my knees were like jelly and I had arm pump from hell. It's a genuine workout. Woke up the next morning feeling like I'd been put through a mangle. No joke. biggrin

obscene

5,180 posts

216 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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DoubleTime said:
Could be worse, you could have bought a CR500 like a guy I worked with many moons ago. Scared himself silly on first outing and punted it on. laugh
rofl

I would be stupid enough to do that. If I had, it would have been supermoto'd!


Cardinal Hips said:
Coming from a background of heavy cycling, including downhill I thought, ahh yeah, it'll be no bother on a mx bike, don't have to pedal, just twist the throttle and stand up...

How wrong was I..... It shocked me just how knackered I was after a pretty short session. At one point I didn't think I'd make it back my knees were like jelly and I had arm pump from hell. It's a genuine workout. Woke up the next morning feeling like I'd been put through a mangle. No joke. biggrin
I put in a good few hours a week on the bicycle and remember the experience day I'd done years ago killed me off when I was less fit. Thought I'd be okay years later, nope! Still physically taxing. Those MX boys are super fit.