Winter hack...again
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Esceptico

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8,897 posts

140 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Weather is turning crap and they are starting to salt the roads. Which means either forget riding until around March/April (depending upon how bad the winter is) or perhaps buying a winter hack. Ideally:

- not that expensive (up to £5k)
- robust (I am a lazy fecker so it won't have the salt washed off every time I ride it)
- fun to ride in the winter (an oxymoron for some) - not thinking of riding in snow storms or when there is black ice - just reasonably mild days but where roads are damp (they never seem to dry properly over the winter) and the roads are still salty

Thoughts?

PIGINAWIG

2,339 posts

196 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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GSX1250FA. You can a year old one for 5 large.

Krikkit

27,939 posts

212 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Pre-VTEC VFR800?

Good protection from the elements, tasty-sounding V4, cheap as chips, it's a Honda...

Dakkon

7,833 posts

284 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Krikkit said:
Pre-VTEC VFR800?

Good protection from the elements, tasty-sounding V4, cheap as chips, it's a Honda...
I am on my second VFR750, both bought for £1000 off ebay, both had rectifier issues, but apart from that, never missed a beat, current VFR is over 40k miles, the previous one I took to over 70k miles. Fit some Road 5 tyres and ride it all year round.

crofty1984

17,064 posts

235 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Krikkit said:
Pre-VTEC VFR800?

Good protection from the elements, tasty-sounding V4, cheap as chips, it's a Honda...
You can have mine for 2k.

Esceptico

Original Poster:

8,897 posts

140 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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crofty1984 said:
You can have mine for 2k.
Details (year, mileage, condition, colour, extras)?

Esceptico

Original Poster:

8,897 posts

140 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Bikes I have been considering...

VFR
Duke 690
MT-07


stupidbutkeen

1,025 posts

186 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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I am selling my 2016 mt09 tracer with 10500 miles for 5k. 5k gets you a hell of a lot of bike this time of year. I just have a hankering for a sportsbike again.

jonindorset

1,082 posts

275 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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I've had both an MT07 and VFR800FI. The old Honda is in a totally different class in terms of the ability of components to stand up to neglect through winter salts. In any case you will be best drowning it in ACF 50 or equivalent.

Otherwise, it depends a lot on the nature of your commute. If its fairly short and on urban / semi urban roads, the MT07 is much lighter, quicker off the mark and more agile (and fun), it is also much more upright. The VFR is on the sporting side of sports touring but is still quite heavy and you are still leaning forwards quite a lot. The VFR is much better at covering long distances, dual carriageways and motorway sections. Personally, having moved from an MT07 to a VFR for a long distance commute I just couldn't get on with the riding position (or my neck and shoulders couldn't get on with it anyway) and I ended up chopping it in for an MT10.

Dakkon

7,833 posts

284 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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jonindorset said:
I've had both an MT07 and VFR800FI. The old Honda is in a totally different class in terms of the ability of components to stand up to neglect through winter salts. In any case you will be best drowning it in ACF 50 or equivalent.

Otherwise, it depends a lot on the nature of your commute. If its fairly short and on urban / semi urban roads, the MT07 is much lighter, quicker off the mark and more agile (and fun), it is also much more upright. The VFR is on the sporting side of sports touring but is still quite heavy and you are still leaning forwards quite a lot. The VFR is much better at covering long distances, dual carriageways and motorway sections. Personally, having moved from an MT07 to a VFR for a long distance commute I just couldn't get on with the riding position (or my neck and shoulders couldn't get on with it anyway) and I ended up chopping it in for an MT10.
Totally agree with this, with regards my previous comment on the VFR 750, my commute is 50 miles each way of mainly motorway.

TheCommuter

96 posts

109 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Ninja 650... Turning out to be the perfect all year commuter for me. Light, nimble, easy to filter, fairing for weather protection, 65mpg and a fun punchy little engine.

Lee540

1,586 posts

175 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Bandit 1250S

warch

2,941 posts

185 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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My experience of winter riding is that you need;

a) really good headlight(s)

b) a fairing

c) heaty uppy bits. Not essential but they're good for morale

d) decent helmet/thermal gear


I've more or less given up riding to work in winter, unless someone knows of a way of making early 90s cbr headlights actually work.


Incidentally OP 5 grand isn't winter hack money, you could actually buy something nice with that.

myvision

2,132 posts

167 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Fazer 1000.

SBDJ

1,335 posts

235 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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warch said:
I've more or less given up riding to work in winter, unless someone knows of a way of making early 90s cbr headlights actually work.
You could open them up and install projector housings, then run HID.

jjr1

3,042 posts

291 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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For my first winter riding hack I am going for a Ducati Hypermotard 796.

Why? Bloody cheap

If I fall off? Bloody cheap

If it gets wrecked by salt and ste on the roads? Bloody cheap


Wish me luck but for the first time in years I am actually going to use a bike in winter

SAS Tom

3,755 posts

205 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Have I travelled to a different planet where 5 grand is the equivalent to 1? Since when has a winter hack been 5k?

Esceptico

Original Poster:

8,897 posts

140 months

Tuesday 27th November 2018
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Poor choice of title on my part. I should have said second bike to use mainly in winter rather than winter hack. Also the £5k was the upper limit rather than a target.

dern

14,055 posts

310 months

Tuesday 27th November 2018
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You could do what I did and buy a cheap hack and then spend bloody ages fixing every niggle, knackered bit of braking system, bodged repair and leaking fork seal. Or you could spend a reasonable amount on a decent bike and knacker that or you could buy a hack that someone has spent time sorting out and now wants shifting because they gave in to a shiny KTM they saw in a showroom.

Roundabout way of saying I have a 2003 blackbird that you won't mind getting salt all over for 2k that had all the work done incl chain, sprockets, brakes, fork seals and radiator.

Krikkit

27,939 posts

212 months

Tuesday 27th November 2018
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SAS Tom said:
Have I travelled to a different planet where 5 grand is the equivalent to 1? Since when has a winter hack been 5k?
I thought the same! Hypermotard 796... Bloody cheap? Maybe if you buy a new litre bike every year for your collection...